City Fans Leaving Early/Empty seats

cleavers said:
Yeah that was how it looked to me too.
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philiph20 said:
75%?, it looked like 90% to me.
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From where I was it looked fairly full but you are always going to have some empty seats at any ground. I probably attend 17 out of the 19 PL games but that is 10% I may miss at short notice due to illness, etc. So if everyone was like me then 90% attending is the maximum you could expect.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
The family stand and the prices are the only reason I can afford to bring my kids who hopefully keep their s/c going for life.fuckin sick at people having a go at the family stand 24/7.
Could hear the geordies clearly singing your support is shit must of been aimed at the family stand and not the stand up arms folded brigade in the south stand
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Hi Mate. I would love my seasoncard to be halved in cost, but the argument I've made if this happened is that there will be plenty of people who wouldn't attend the lesser matches or the televised ones and would use their card only for bigger matches
Now on the family stand. I've never had a go at the family stand and I think having it is bringing the next generation of supporters through and is a fantastic way of a family of coming to the match
However I do believe that it should be located in an upper tier and not pitchside. It is notorious for emptying early and as I saw with my own eyes yesterday and have seen on numerous occasions at midweek matches
We go on about atmosphere and how us as fans can help creating that daunting arena, well the support on the lower tier behind the goals should be that hotbed
 
gkmcfc said:
There were at least 6 season card holders around me in 134 who simply didn't turn up. It happens but two in particular of have literally been about 3 times this season.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Bayern system of a certain amount of no shows and lose your SC would stop a lot of this going on.
 
Danamy said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Bayern system of a certain amount of no shows and lose your SC would stop a lot of this going on.
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At last someone with something constructive to add to the topic instead of bickering.
 
Danamy said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Bayern system of a certain amount of no shows and lose your SC would stop a lot of this going on.
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No problem with this provided long term sickness can be taken into consideration. And also providing it applies to all season ticket holders including corporate and tunnel club etc.
 
dickie davies said:
Hi Mate. I would love my seasoncard to be halved in cost, but the argument I've made if this happened is that there will be plenty of people who wouldn't attend the lesser matches or the televised ones and would use their card only for bigger matches
Now on the family stand. I've never had a go at the family stand and I think having it is bringing the next generation of supporters through and is a fantastic way of a family of coming to the match
However I do believe that it should be located in an upper tier and not pitchside. It is notorious for emptying early and as I saw with my own eyes yesterday and have seen on numerous occasions at midweek matches
We go on about atmosphere and how us as fans can help creating that daunting arena, well the support on the lower tier behind the goals should be that hotbed
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Of course the stand will be emptier for mid week games due to the kids ages.the stand seems to be getting more and more school parties and anything that stops em going the swamp has got to be a good thing ?
Level 2 is open to everyone isnt it ?
If you want us relocated where would you put us as its not everyones cup of tea being low down ?
As for leaving early we sit opposite ss3 they dont like to miss ant and dec on a saturday either !
 
Danamy said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Bayern system of a certain amount of no shows and lose your SC would stop a lot of this going on.
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Rather than start at that point, couldn’t the club contact the serial offenders and ask the question as to why people don’t turn up first?
 
Danamy said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Bayern system of a certain amount of no shows and lose your SC would stop a lot of this going on.
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Yeah I agree. I read an article in the Liverpool Echo the other day. It's not uncommon and Liverpool have up to 2000 no shows for every game. It does prevent other fans getting access for sure.
 
East Level 2 said:
No problem with this provided long term sickness can be taken into consideration. And also providing it applies to all season ticket holders including corporate and tunnel club etc.
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Of course, it would also make people put the effort in to pass the ticket to a mate or sell it on to someone else, at least the seat would be used by someone?
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
Of course the stand will be emptier for mid week games due to the kids ages.the stand seems to be getting more and more school parties and anything that stops em going the swamp has got to be a good thing ?
Level 2 is open to everyone isnt it ?
If you want us relocated where would you put us as its not everyones cup of tea being low down ?
As for leaving early we sit opposite ss3 they dont like to miss ant and dec on a saturday either !
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L3 SS
 
East Level 2 said:
No problem with this provided long term sickness can be taken into consideration. And also providing it applies to all season ticket holders including corporate and tunnel club etc.
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Not a system I would view with any relish, as I would be punished on the grounds of geographical circumstance. I’ve been going to about 75% of games home and away for over 30 years, but thanks to TV things like midweekers are nigh on impossible for me. My contention would be that the club was happy enough for me to buy a season card when we were effing shite and they needed all the support they could get, so why the hell should I have it taken off me now. Loyalty cuts both ways
 
Hence my point that if the club ask the question first before any ‘action’ is taken. Out of interest do you put your ticket up for resale for midweek games if you can’t get up here?
 
East Level 2 said:
No problem with this provided long term sickness can be taken into consideration. And also providing it applies to all season ticket holders including corporate and tunnel club etc.
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The first person I asked in the pub took my SC for free for Burnley and Bristol City. He’ll buy me beer when we next see each other. I just wanted the seat filled given my cup scheme membership had paid for the tickets.
 
My comment is based purely from the pov of what Kompany said the other week. Obviously the big bosses are looking at the match day experience through a tv screen now. They want it all to look spot on. I get that families may need to go earlier but the club can't have it both ways. If they want the camera frame to project that ideal image of rammed cheering stands then that image has to be in frame.

Just as a family may need to leave early. A person visiting the city on holiday would watch as as we would an event like sumo if we went to Japan. We would clap and enjoy the spectacle but not much more. These people at the front visually create a problem for that togetherness with the fans stuff. There is a human barrier of gentrified spectators at the front + an army of stewards who spring up like rabbits the second a player runs remotely close to the crowd to celebrate. It looks very clinical on tv and not "organic" for lack of a better term. The couple of rows at the front is not so bad visually from a distance but if it is a pitch side cam following goal celebrations it is pretty noticeable.

Clubs need to find a balance of what they can accept/want. Balancing the desire for aesthetically pleasing tv coverage and seating policy.

Edit: I should add similar should go for the more boisterous sections, singing etc. You do not want them right next to the dugout as it will piss off the manager. Not just that, coked up lads chanting behind the manager is probably not the look we want/to close to vip areas etc. So it is not just early leavers the club need to look at with planning their ideal aesthetic match day image.
 
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dickie davies said:
Hi Mate. I would love my seasoncard to be halved in cost, but the argument I've made if this happened is that there will be plenty of people who wouldn't attend the lesser matches or the televised ones and would use their card only for bigger matches
Now on the family stand. I've never had a go at the family stand and I think having it is bringing the next generation of supporters through and is a fantastic way of a family of coming to the match
However I do believe that it should be located in an upper tier and not pitchside. It is notorious for emptying early and as I saw with my own eyes yesterday and have seen on numerous occasions at midweek matches
We go on about atmosphere and how us as fans can help creating that daunting arena, well the support on the lower tier behind the goals should be that hotbed
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I am a family stand lower tier season card holder
so what you are saying is that you want the next generation to go , but not in the glare of the media. Or is more a case of wanting a cheaper/better view. My lad had flu all week and only at the last minute decided he wanted to go. Now I don't know if you have kids, but they can be fickle and it has nothing to do with how great we are playing. My lads generation have so many visual and computer aids/ distractions. It doesn't help when people who have season cards with thousands of points are selling their ticket on just for the points.

Can I just make one point. We are supposed to all be Manchester City Fans , supporting and fighting the cause against the media and the old sky 4. How can we do this if we are picking fights with our own fans. Surely we should be trying to improve the atmosphere, Maybe putting song sheets on the seats in the family stand or get the ground signing in the concourse by piping the songs outside the concourses. We seem to be able to sing a verse of hey jude before the start of the second half.
 
dickie davies said:
Hi Mate. I would love my seasoncard to be halved in cost, but the argument I've made if this happened is that there will be plenty of people who wouldn't attend the lesser matches or the televised ones and would use their card only for bigger matches
Now on the family stand. I've never had a go at the family stand and I think having it is bringing the next generation of supporters through and is a fantastic way of a family of coming to the match
However I do believe that it should be located in an upper tier and not pitchside. It is notorious for emptying early and as I saw with my own eyes yesterday and have seen on numerous occasions at midweek matches
We go on about atmosphere and how us as fans can help creating that daunting arena, well the support on the lower tier behind the goals should be that hotbed
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Why we usually shoot toward the family stand in the second half is beyond me,from around 80th mins it's virtually empty
 
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