Talksport

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

She said with an arsy attitude "don't call me darling" She was confrontational and it wasn't necessary especially when I add the guy on the phone didn't really have a clue.

No she didn't. So do yourself a favour and stop repeating this bullshit because no matter how often you repeat it it doesn't make it true.
Maybe go back and re-listen to what she actually said.

She actually said 'you don't need to call me darling' and the guy didn't take the hint and reverted back to 'love' which wasn't exactly said as a term of endearment.
So she terminated the call after giving the reason why, so how is that confrontational? If anything she removed herself from any possible confrontation.

Also, even though it may be her work place why does she any obligation to talk to someone who won't extend her the courtesy of being pleasant and speaking to her without being condescending? Is it in her contract that she must listen to everyone who calls in?

 

[pudge]

She didn't react as someone in her role should have, not how I think she should just generally she dealt with it all wrong. I speak to people every day, many women call me love (which I know you aren't complaining about the words being used) if I said to someone at work I'm not talking to you and walked off I'd be labelled a drama queen and probably asked to explain why I over reacted. All she had to say was I am sorry but can you not call me them names. She said with an arsy attitude "don't call me darling" She was confrontational and it wasn't necessary especially when I add the guy on the phone didn't really have a clue.

If you think that's how you act in the work place, talking to the general public that's fine, we have differing opinions on it.

Coupled with the fact the caller addressed Danny Murphy by his name so easily yet only addressed Lynsey Hipgrave by "love/darling"...

She wasn't confrontational at all. The caller was very much a "quiet love, the men are talking football" type and he was called on it, warned and rightly fucked off air.

 

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[mat]

Coupled with the fact the caller addressed Danny Murphy by his name so easily yet only addressed Lynsey Hipgrave by "love/darling"...

She wasn't confrontational at all. The caller was very much a "quiet love, the men are talking football" type and he was called on it, warned and rightly fucked off air.

Don't blame her at all for doing it.

She's a die-hard Newcastle season ticket holder. Probably has more knowledge about the game than the meth addict and the caller put together.

 

[Pokes28]

I swear people just look for reasons to be upset.

I understand that the what is acceptable or not acceptable changes over time, but there are always going to be people that are stuck in an era. If you didn't know him, you would have thought that my grandfather was a huge racist. He wasn't at all, he just used language from a different time.

 

[schfc6]

Coupled with the fact the caller addressed Danny Murphy by his name so easily yet only addressed Lynsey Hipgrave by "love/darling"...

She wasn't confrontational at all. The caller was very much a "quiet love, the men are talking football" type and he was called on it, warned and rightly fucked off air.

Agreed, he was pissing me off, so I guess she was well and truly pised off.

It was actually frustrating, he seemed more intent on antagonising her than raising his point.

 

[mac]

Ffs I just heard Gough say Pogba will be a star at the World Cup.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Ffs I just heard Gough say Pogba will be a star at the World Cup.

He will have get a game first.

 

[Tom_mcfc]

Coupled with the fact the caller addressed Danny Murphy by his name so easily yet only addressed Lynsey Hipgrave by "love/darling"...

She wasn't confrontational at all. The caller was very much a "quiet love, the men are talking football" type and he was called on it, warned and rightly fucked off air.

That's how you perceived it because seemingly like this whole nation we want stuff to offend us. He knew who Danny was, he is a Liverpool fan ffs he might not have known her name and used it as a way of speaking to her. She was confrontational, 100% if something that isn't really that offensive offends you then I think you should tell them reasonably and give them chance to rectify it. Don't snap saying "don't call me darling" her job that day was talking to the general public, at least address them correctly. I will repeat again, if it offended her she only had to say sorry, do you mind not talking like that. She called him love back instantly too, oh no how offensive.

 

[Tom_mcfc]

I swear people just look for reasons to be upset.

I understand that the what is acceptable or not acceptable changes over time, but there are always going to be people that are stuck in an era. If you didn't know him, you would have thought that my grandfather was a huge racist. He wasn't at all, he just used language from a different time.

You have offended me! Bollocks isn't it mate, go to different parts of the world you will be called all sorts. She is in the wrong job if she cannot talk to someone without being offended.

 

[Cellarite]

Coupled with the fact the caller addressed Danny Murphy by his name so easily yet only addressed Lynsey Hipgrave by "love/darling"...

She wasn't confrontational at all. The caller was very much a "quiet love, the men are talking football" type and he was called on it, warned and rightly fucked off air.

Calling Danny Murphy “Danny” is nothing to do with it. He’s a Liverpool fan so is going to know his name. I heard it about 6 minutes before I got to the office this morning and was relaying it to the women in the office. I couldn’t remember the name of the presenter either.

She does indeed have the right not to be addressed as “love” or “darling” but maybe working on talksport, a station that aims itself at predominantly men and then being upset when a working class man calls you these things is a bit naïve on her part.

If she feels it was his tone that was dismissive then maybe that is because he didn’t want to talk to her but a player who used to play for his club.

 

[Tom_mcfc]

Calling Danny Murphy “Danny” is nothing to do with it. He’s a Liverpool fan so is going to know his name. I heard it about 6 minutes before I got to the office this morning and was relaying it to the women in the office. I couldn’t remember the name of the presenter either.

She does indeed have the right not to be addressed as “love” or “darling” but maybe working on talksport, a station that aims itself at predominantly men and then being upset when a working class man calls you these things is a bit naïve on her part.

If she feels it was his tone that was dismissive then maybe that is because he didn’t want to talk to her but a player who used to play for his club.

Exactly he was trying to talk to Danny whilst she kept chipping in. I agree with the tone and is where I think she could have handled it a lot differently. Toys well and truly out of the pram.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

If she feels it was his tone that was dismissive then maybe that is because he didn’t want to talk to her but a player who used to play for his club.

But that doesn't seem to be the case.

The guy speaks to her first, then thanks Danny for the all the goals he scored against utd, then returns to her and says 'the fact is love...' , and which point she decides to cut him off.

I wish people would listen to it again, so they don't keep distorting what she said to suit their agenda

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

Don't snap saying "don't call me darling" her job that day was talking to the general public,

ffs. she didn't say this.
i repeat again she didn't say this, and no matter how many times you repeat it won't make it so

 

[supercity88]

It depends whether it was meant in a condescending manner. If he said listen mate/pal to a bloke then that would be equally patronising because it is a random caller who is clearly not your mate/pal. Would you get so shirty about it? Probably not, but the world we live in now makes it difficult to see where the line is with things like this.

It is a common thing in the north of England to refer to a woman as "love" and be meant in a complementary way. In the south of England it would be less common I would say.

 

[argyle]

Some people refuse to see misogyny/racism/sexism etc when it's so blatant so they can continue with being offended and angry at those who are offended.

 

[Pokes28]

You have offended me! Bollocks isn't it mate, go to different parts of the world you will be called all sorts. She is in the wrong job if she cannot talk to someone without being offended.

Like the female reporters that fight like hell to get access into the locker rooms like their male counterparts and then are offended when the athletes actually want to get naked and hit the showers.

Like my mother always says "Common sense aint so common."

 

[aguero93:20]

He will have get a game first.

Don't be silly mate, that's the last thing he wants to be doing, if he gets a game the hype gets shown up for what it is, it's when he isn't playing he's the best in the world.

 

[Cellarite]

But that doesn't seem to be the case.

The guy speaks to her first, then thanks Danny for the all the goals he scored against utd, then returns to her and says 'the fact is love...' , and which point she decides to cut him off.

I wish people would listen to it again, so they don't keep distorting what she said to suit their agenda

Whoa, please don’t accuse me of distorting what was said to suit my agenda. I haven’t got an agenda, I’ve got an opinion.

Like a previous poster has said, calling women “love” is common and not seen as offensive by a huge amount of women.

I’m not sure he even hears her say about the “darling” bit because he’s trying to thank Danny Murphy for goals.

I’ve phoned talksport in the past to berate Terry Christian. When you get on, you have in mind what you want to say and if they say something you don’t expect, it can throw you.

I honestly don’t believe he has phoned up to dismiss her otherwise, why would he go back to her and as you point out, say “the thing is love”?

I think she’s got her heckles raised unnecessarily because he’s called her “love”. A male presenter wouldn’t bat an eyelid if the same conversation happened with “mate” or “pal” instead of “love” or “darling”.

Her female colleague argued with Alan Brazil this morning that he wouldn’t know how women feel within football because he isn’t one and doesn’t have his position within the game questioned. That is surely her insecurity rather than a genuine feeling of offence by being called “love”.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

Whoa, please don’t accuse me of distorting what was said to suit my agenda. I haven’t got an agenda, I’ve got an opinion.

Like a previous poster has said, calling women “love” is common and not seen as offensive by a huge amount of women.

I’m not sure he even hears her say about the “darling” bit because he’s trying to thank Danny Murphy for goals.

I’ve phoned talksport in the past to berate Terry Christian. When you get on, you have in mind what you want to say and if they say something you don’t expect, it can throw you.

I honestly don’t believe he has phoned up to dismiss her otherwise, why would he go back to her and as you point out, say “the thing is love”?

I think she’s got her heckles raised unnecessarily because he’s called her “love”. A male presenter wouldn’t bat an eyelid if the same conversation happened with “mate” or “pal” instead of “love” or “darling”.

Her female colleague argued with Alan Brazil this morning that he wouldn’t know how women feel within football because he isn’t one and doesn’t have his position within the game questioned. That is surely her insecurity rather than a genuine feeling of offence by being called “love”.

That's what i find hard to understand. If he was so focused on just talking to Murphy then he could of just ignored her after and carried on speaking to him after the utd goals thing, but he switched back to her in a patronizing 'the fact is love...' as if he was talking to an imbecile, which is when she decided she couldn't be arsed continuing with him.

My 'distorting her words' were more aimed at the other poster who keeps repeating the same BS line time & again and not what she actually said, and then adding in she was OTT, confrontatitional & aggresive to justify his view, so my apologies.