United (H) Post Match Thread

[paulchapo]

You are right of cause, but it was apparent at the very start of the second half that we had left our brains in the dressing room.

Before Pep responded we had lost the game.

The problem was it was something like 97 seconds to go from 2-0 to 2-2. We had started to get overrun in midfield. I think also Pogba and Sanchez forgot their feud with Mourinho and for once played like highly paid professionals.

We miss a big physical presence in midfield like Ya Ya at times like that. Someone to get the ball and hold it, slow it down, keep it for a bit.

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

Yes and no. At half time 2-0 up and absolutely dominating it looked like it had worked big time. The rags were chasing shadows and the only question was how we weren't 5-0 up and how many we would get in the second half. While it was a niggle the missed chances might cost us nobody predicted that collapse from the first half showing.

Pep selected the wrong team against liverpool but yesterday that wasnt really the case. Think about it 2-0 up with us missing sitters and United didnt even registered a shot of target in first half let alone on target. We can blame pep for not starting a striker but at half time it felt everything was going according to plan and felt we could go on to score 4 or 5. One cannot deny that

Our real issue and what has been for a long time now is that we get complacent. Its been happening since manchini era. It happened last season as well.

 

[mancity1]

Pep selected the wrong team against liverpool but yesterday that wasnt really the case. Think about it 2-0 up with us missing sitters and United didnt even registered a shot of target in first half let alone on target. We can blame pep for not starting a striker but at half time it felt everything was going according to plan and felt we could go on to score 4 or 5. One cannot deny that

Our real issue and what has been for a long time now is that we get complacent. Its been happening since manchini era. It happened last season as well.

We certainly have games where we switch off and sometimes the opposition make us pay with goals.

I know its not the case but sometimes you get the feeling the players think its too easy and they need a new challenge but we all know they are ruthless and good enough as a collective to be smug and even poor sides like Manure can capitalise on it.

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

Sobered up now, and have read some of the posts again, do i feel better - no. Still not happy he played a weakened team for this game but at half time was thinking it was paying off. However in the back of my mind, it was only 2 goals and we had missed some sitters - Aguero would have got at least 1 goal with the way we were playing. It semed obvious to me that Utd were going to come at us in the second half and stir things up a bit. That's exactly what they did, the ref gave them a bit of leeway and we lost it big time. That has been the same all season , any team that has a go gives us problems. Whether we cope or not depends on the quality of the opposition and who we have on the pitch but this has been happening all season and it hasn't been corrected . Defensively we have always had a few mistakes in us and been comical at times. Don't know how we will do on Tuesday, i suspect Liverpool will play very tight and we will struggle to score the goals we need to progress. But one things for sure i would have liked to have gone into that game with a win against Utd, a Premier League title on the shelf and 50,000 happy blues . As it is, i think Pep has missed a trick. As someone said earlier, possibly end the season on a par with Pelligrini

 

[Bluekiwi]

What the hell has gone wrong with our defence? When Vinnie returned I thought "brilliant, solidity" What has actually happened - we go to pieces as soon as the opposition scores. I would have expected Vinnie to start barking orders and calming things down. I'm not having a go at Vinnie just really disappointed that my expectations on his return haven't been met.
Pep has a lot of work ahead of him this week.
The players will be down, the fans definitely down and will be hard pushed to raise an intense atmosphere for the dippers game.. I cannot see us putting 4 unanswered goals past the dippers and the way that Spuds players get away week after week with dangerous tackles we will be in dire straights on Saturday, especially with Ferna gone for a couple of weeks.
Think what I've just posted gives you some idea of how pissed off I am at giving up a 2 goal half time lead over our most detested rivals. And given I've been a fan since 1955 I know how easy it is for us to shoot ourselves in the foot.
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[daflanger]

Why is everyone blaming PEP for this loss? We were 2-0 up at half time! We could have won it even 4-0. The problem we have is a mental problem. Once the first goal went in we instantly became shaky at the back!! We have a defensive mental problem. Happened with Liverpool and again now with Man United.

I don't understand why everyone is saying PEP ruined this and ruined that! On top of that, we will still win the League. PEP is thinking of the Liverpool game knowing that if we lose against Man United we will still win the League as we have 6 games to win it

The most pressing issue now is for us to fix the defence and mental problem! The 3 goals went in when both Pogba and Smallings were totally unmarked!!! This is a Defence Problem! How can we make the same mistake 3 times in the same 15 minutes! Pogba said he knew City can attack but cannot defend and they took us down for that. We need to sort our Defence.... or score many many goals!

Tough week this week but not the end of the World!! Still a great season for us. I am laughing at the Man U fans who feel they have won the league by beating us! LOL!!! We will still life up the Trophy and I hope we still show up for the Liverpool Game and give all we have.

And I really cannot take the this Sterling flaking!!! He has been amazing for us! So what if he missed some sitters, he played extremely well. Come on!!! It's too much. This is only our second loss of the season and I see total meltdown!!!

I for one would like to extend my support to all the problems and tell them lift up your heads and lets finish the job and win the League and do our best in the CL QF!!!

 

[Sky Blue]

That was a fitful night's sleep. Absolutely shell-shocked if I'm honest. I bet that grey sack of shit Atkinson slept well though.

 

[City_Sean]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think United's second half was anywhere near as good as is being made out.

The first goal of theirs was fantastic, but the two after just show the fatigue that we had. Second half we were dead on our feet, Silva and Fernandinho clearly struggled and as a result we lost all control in the middle which Pogba and Sanchez exploited.

I don't think United are anywhere near our level, as the league table shows. What happened yesterday was what happens when you're physically spent, and you miss guilt edge chances. United missed great chances v us at Old Trafford in December. Shit happens. We're gonna overcome this deficit Tuesday and win the league - it's not all bad.

 

[rossie]

the quicker VAR comes into play the better, stitched here and against the dippers , 2 certain pens .. and sterling cost us in my opinion ,

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

I watched this and it made me feel better. Give it a try. Everything about winning against united is done and dusted now. Lets move on now. The more we think n argue about the more sick it will make us all feel

Lets not forget that we will be crowned champions and it will be a 2 trophies in a season which would have been a good return if we were offered that at the start of the season.

Yes players n pep disappointed us and let us down but lets also not forget the beautiful football they treated us with throughout the season.

They will all be disappointed and distraught themselves as well. Lets move on. Love n Peace for all. CTID

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Sobered up now, and have read some of the posts again, do i feel better - no. Still not happy he played a weakened team for this game but at half time was thinking it was paying off. However in the back of my mind, it was only 2 goals and we had missed some sitters - Aguero would have got at least 1 goal with the way we were playing. It semed obvious to me that Utd were going to come at us in the second half and stir things up a bit. That's exactly what they did, the ref gave them a bit of leeway and we lost it big time. That has been the same all season , any team that has a go gives us problems. Whether we cope or not depends on the quality of the opposition and who we have on the pitch but this has been happening all season and it hasn't been corrected . Defensively we have always had a few mistakes in us and been comical at times. Don't know how we will do on Tuesday, i suspect Liverpool will play very tight and we will struggle to score the goals we need to progress. But one things for sure i would have liked to have gone into that game with a win against Utd, a Premier League title on the shelf and 50,000 happy blues . As it is, i think Pep has missed a trick. As someone said earlier, possibly end the season on a par with Pelligrini

Pelligrini had to make do with stop gaps like Demichilis, Lampard, Fernando, Sagna etc. Pep has spent an absolute truck load of money and been given nearly every player he wanted barring Sanchez and Dani Alves.we have been dumped out of Europe by Monaco and by the looks of it Liverpool to show for that return hardly Europe’s elite.

Really feels like we’ve regressed and nothing has been learned when it came to two big games and they’ve stopped doing what’s made the team be successful all season. What happened to the hunting the ball down in packs to stop the other team building a platform in the game? Looked like we were running through treacle v Liverpool and you could see that coming yesterday in how they came out 2nd half and the changes were way too late. Gudhongan isn’t quick enough to do what is needed when we haven’t got the ball. Two of those goals happened through not tracking a deep runner when they broke through the lines, the 3rd was playground stuff.

 

[richards30]

Decided not to think straight away about it last night and sleep on it......stillabsolutely devastated by yesterday! :-( sterling really needs to look at himself for his finishing as them chances he had he never even came close to scoring and that’s unforgivable! Then conceding 2 in a minute or so is so weak mentally it’s untrue and shows this team are nowhere near being the best in a mental way as it just shouldn’t happen! Pep also isn’t a reactive manager, numerous times this season that he has needed to make a change or two sooner and then seems to be sort of panicked into doing something. Going to complete a shit week for the club when we don’t make it on Tuesday and it’s the second time in days we have conceded 3 goals in one half against a rival which is totally unacceptable

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

I can only assume Eddie Large was in the changing rooms at half time

Chance to redeem ourselves Tuesday but can only think Klopp will have watched yesterday and know exactly what he needs to do

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Sobered up now, and have read some of the posts again, do i feel better - no. Still not happy he played a weakened team for this game but at half time was thinking it was paying off. However in the back of my mind, it was only 2 goals and we had missed some sitters - Aguero would have got at least 1 goal with the way we were playing. It semed obvious to me that Utd were going to come at us in the second half and stir things up a bit. That's exactly what they did, the ref gave them a bit of leeway and we lost it big time. That has been the same all season , any team that has a go gives us problems. Whether we cope or not depends on the quality of the opposition and who we have on the pitch but this has been happening all season and it hasn't been corrected . Defensively we have always had a few mistakes in us and been comical at times. Don't know how we will do on Tuesday, i suspect Liverpool will play very tight and we will struggle to score the goals we need to progress. But one things for sure i would have liked to have gone into that game with a win against Utd, a Premier League title on the shelf and 50,000 happy blues . As it is, i think Pep has missed a trick. As someone said earlier, possibly end the season on a par with Pelligrini

Agreed with everything in this until the last sentence. It’s miles over the top. Pellegrini is not in the same universe as a manager. And I will not soon forget the utter deflation of his second and third seasons. Pep will analyse things, fix them, and we’ll actuallly be better next season. But he is a very stubborn man, there’s no denying it.

 

[mancity1]

I guess you have to ask would you rather be in our shoes going forward than theirs.

I will take us and even if I was a neutral I would still take us.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think United's second half was anywhere near as good as is being made out.

The first goal of theirs was fantastic, but the two after just show the fatigue that we had. Second half we were dead on our feet, Silva and Fernandinho clearly struggled and as a result we lost all control in the middle which Pogba and Sanchez exploited.

I don't think United are anywhere near our level, as the league table shows. What happened yesterday was what happens when you're physically spent, and you miss guilt edge chances. United missed great chances v us at Old Trafford in December. Shit happens. We're gonna overcome this deficit Tuesday and win the league - it's not all bad.

Your point about the fatigue is spot on. Liverpool looked spent at the end of their match, too. In hindsight, Pep probably was right to rest Kev and the strikers for Tuesday. No surprise that Delph looked our best player.

I would suggest that the club think more carefully about the fixture list in future, and ask for these high profile games to be played where they don't fall too near to CL game dates.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Still fuming this morning could’ve been done and dusted now wondering how close it could be

 

[vin]

The agenda was well and truly on for Mr. Atkinson and his team. However, that’s no excuse. We could have had 7 or 8 before Pogba scored. We need to be more ruthless like all the other top teams, we waste so many clear cut chances it’s really poor. Sterling will be gutted this morning but he’s had a great season and we need to get behind him (as hard as it is after those horrendous efforts yesterday).

 

[City Raider]

Easier to see the bigger picture this morning and 2 trophies is something we'd all have took at the beginning of the season.

The team selection though still riles. I wonder how much/if any pressure he is under from above to deliver a CL.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Absolute shame we didn't win it against the scum but not the end of the world, I'm 100% certain we will still go on to win it
i don't mind the team selection, in fact it was working for a long time until we started playing shit. That team should have been good enough to win that game, especially from 2-0 up.

CTID