Gabriel Jesus - 2017/18 performances

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His all round game today was outstanding , his link play and running off the ball is unbelievable for a 20 year old , much as i love Aguero we are a much more fluid team with Jesus playing up front , but Aguero's goal record speaks for itself , a nice problem to have next season , two world class forwards , unfortunately just the one place in the team.
 
Aguero is one of the best strikers of all time.

Jesus might become one but in any case, is miles ahead of Aguero in literally every other area.

The goal he scored today was classic Colin Bell/Brian Robson.

Jimmy Hill etc used to go on about the 'late' run from midfield in tne 70s 80s etc. You rarely hear it mentioned in the modern game but it looks like Pep & City are on it with Jesus.

He sets it up in centre mid, takes the ball again & threads it though to Sterling, as West Ham pick up all the attackers, he arrives last & scores from the (brilliant) late pass from Sterling.

Zabba has no fucking idea he is coming.

Classic 70s centre mid play. Brazil 1970 even. World Class.
 
He's not Ronaldo, but he has all the attributes to have a similar output and be the first to fill that famous shirt. I'm happy to see him thriving with a run of games and want him to continue that slow burn build into a crescendo. The killer for Ronaldo was burn out and catastrophic injuries too young, Jesus has already had a couple of nasty ones and I'd be happy to keep him on the slow trajectory if possible, sharing with Kun. Of course, he could explode at the World Cup and take that out of our hands, but the calibre is there for sure.
 
Aguero is one of the best strikers of all time.

Jesus might become one but in any case, is miles ahead of Aguero in literally every other area.

The goal he scored today was classic Colin Bell/Brian Robson.

Jimmy Hill etc used to go on about the 'late' run from midfield in tne 70s 80s etc. You rarely hear it mentioned in the modern game but it looks like Pep & City are on it with Jesus.

He sets it up in centre mid, takes the ball again & threads it though to Sterling, as West Ham pick up all the attackers, he arrives last & scores from the (brilliant) late pass from Sterling.

Zabba has no fucking idea he is coming.

Classic 70s centre mid play. Brazil 1970 even. World Class.

That goal gets better each time you see it replayed. Truly one of the goals of the season. I felt safe to applaud it even though surrounded by West Ham fans.
 
He's not Ronaldo, but he has all the attributes to have a similar output and be the first to fill that famous shirt. I'm happy to see him thriving with a run of games and want him to continue that slow burn build into a crescendo. The killer for Ronaldo was burn out and catastrophic injuries too young, Jesus has already had a couple of nasty ones and I'd be happy to keep him on the slow trajectory if possible, sharing with Kun. Of course, he could explode at the World Cup and take that out of our hands, but the calibre is there for sure.

He's not fit to be put in the same breath as either Ronaldo. However he was pure class today putting in one of his best performances in a long time. I don't understand why as City fans we have to constantly compare Aguero and Jesus. We should just enjoy having two great strikers. At the risk of comparing tho:) Aguero's workrate was firsr class before his injury.
 
Staggering that people don't rate Jesus. At 21 years old he is already one of the most complete strikers in the world.

The only thing missing from his game is the ability to regularly score stunning finishes like Aguero, Kane and Salah do. But really, who needs that?

Pep's system is all about walking the ball into the back of the net as often as possible because that way leaves little to chance. Jesus is the perfect striker for this system, so it's only natural that most of his goals will be first-time finishes from close range ('tap-ins'). It's a very underrated skill and surprisingly difficult to master but when he's scored a dozen of these goals for us this season it's not hard to see why he's such a useful player to have.

But none of that matters because some bloke on the internet reckons he's just a Brazilian Jadon Sancho. Shame.
 
True. Close-range goals or tap-ins do need skill, not only in the finishing but in the ability to read the game and anticipate play.
Van Nistelrooy scored over 200 goals in 285 games for PSV, Real M and United. A large number were close range goals. This does not diminish the skill or quality needed.
 
Played a couple of superb through balls to sterling. Glad he got a goal, his build up play was excellent and deserved it.
 
Attacking Influence Assessment - City Players

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This is a preliminary (work-in-progress) bubble chart mapping players to four basic quadrants representing attacking influence. It is based on a scoring system I am developing in an attempt to create my own baseline method of assessing player influence on attacking play in the league over the course of the season (I may use it for predictive analysis for several buy-in draft Fantasy Football leagues next year). This is based on the official Premier League statistics (https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=79) and my own formula for weighting contributions (goals and assists) and (big) missed chances, factoring in minutes played (to recognise relative opportunity to contribute). The higher the Attacking Contribution Score, the more the player contributed to our attacking play. The higher the Chances Missed Score, the less clinical the player’s finishing. The larger the player ‘bubble’, the larger their net influence on attacking play. This is meant to help assess variance in overall contribution to attack and identify consistency and potential for improvement (and thus, players that may be ‘major influencers’ next year based on other factors, such as additional playing time, changes to team role, or further development).

This version only includes City players who have played at least 500 minutes and have contributed at least one goal or assist. The ‘ideal’ quadrant for player position is the bottom-right quadrant, for obvious reasons. The unnamed player on the graph is Vinny(due to total net influence being so small), which is not surprising.

There are much better, much more detailed overall assessment systems out there, of course, but most are behind a paywall and I enjoy creating these sorts of assessment systems (and want to have a project to fill the void left by the Summer football break, not counting the World Cup, of course). I am still working through the scoring formula to make it more accurate/representative, and plan to create similar charts for previous seasons for year-over-year comparisons, but I thought this initial effort was worth sharing for discussion. I may eventually expand out to Opta or WhoScored stats for more granular performance analysis. I am posting this chart to a few player threads for reference—not sure it deserves its own thread.

It’s worth keeping in my that this does not reflect the overall contribution of the player (attacking and defensive play, nor intangible influence). I am thinking about how that could be quantitatively (and comprehensively) assessed and, if I am able to put something together, I think we would find Kevin, David, and Fernandinho would be up with Sterling and Aguero for overall contribution.

Jesus related observations:

1) He is the only ‘middling’ player in the assessment universe, with his Attacking Contribution score being around the median, while having the joint highest Missed Chances score along side Sergio.
2) Small improvements in *either* chance creation or conversion rate will see Gabby move much closer to the bottom-right quadrant (as opposed to players like Gundogan, who would need to substantially improve chance creation to see similar movement) and increase his overall influence (which is currently similar to Ilkay’s, despite having an Attacking Contribution Scor nearly three times higher).
3) This likely masks his overall contribtion to our play, not factoring in his key passing, high press, movement, and defensive contributions, which means it is a somewhat bias view of his influence.
3) Gabby still has huge potential to increase is influence on our attacking play (obvious but still worth saying for the moaners ;-) ).
 
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He was good yesterday against an abysmal west ham. we needed him to step up to the plate against the fucking dippers and he didn't. When he pulls it out of the fire for us when the chips are down and our backs to the wall like Kun has being doing for years then maybe he can become a legend for us. Not yet though.
 
He was good yesterday against an abysmal west ham. we needed him to step up to the plate against the fucking dippers and he didn't. When he pulls it out of the fire for us when the chips are down and our backs to the wall like Kun has being doing for years then maybe he can become a legend for us. Not yet though.

Not sure you appreciate the difficulty of the strikers role in our system.
 
He was good yesterday against an abysmal west ham. we needed him to step up to the plate against the fucking dippers and he didn't. When he pulls it out of the fire for us when the chips are down and our backs to the wall like Kun has being doing for years then maybe he can become a legend for us. Not yet though.

No chance Aguero would have done anything much different in that team that day. They were shite.
 
Well that could be true. He seems to me to be a fraction slower than kun to make it to balls whipped across the area. The run were kun ghosts between the two centre halves. We Should be expecting 30 + next season from Gabby.

He's only started 15 Premier League games and gotten 11 goals and 2 assists, so I've not doubt he'd get near 30 goals in the league alone if he started every week.

If you're expecting him to score 30 goals with the same role he has in the squad now, I think you're deliberately setting yourself up for disappointment, in the same way you're disappointed for a 21 year old for not single handed saving a tie vs. Liverpool when the rest of the team was shite.
 
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