Eden Hazard

Seems strange if we bid for Mahrez in January & if we sign him now, that Pep actually wanted Hazard yet is not willing to even wait a few weeks after the season to try & get him, even when Abramovic is struggling to get a visa & Chelsea have no confirmed manager for next season.

Not even given it two weeks.

Unless he actually never wanted Hazard at all & actually wants Mahrez & it was all complete and utter bullshit.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
It's not just him at Chelsea, but c'mon man. You buy a 100 mil plus player, he had better be doubt free. Hazard is not. He's clearly talented, I've never disputed that. But he's all about himself and isn't a team leader. The best comparison I can offer is he's a higher quality Nasri(in terms of his attitude and how it affects performance at times)

Let's not forget him and his dad/agent completely shafted us by agreeing a deal and then shifting the goalposts.

I get why lots would salivate at the prospect of having him in the team, but it's a no from me.
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:-)

Doubt free is generally a tall order but that's what club's scouting operations are partly there for. City do their homework so if they do want him, I'm comfortable on that score.

I don't care what happened six years ago.

I have no problem with you or anyone else being a "no" but I continue to disagree with you on that and most particularly your assessment of his season (based on the facts presented).
 
Neville Kneville said:
Seems strange if we bid for Mahrez in January & if we sign him now, that Pep actually wanted Hazard yet is not willing to even wait a few weeks after the season to try & get him, even when Abramovic is struggling to get a visa & Chelsea have no confirmed manager for next season.

Not even given it two weeks.

Unless he actually never wanted Hazard at all & actually wants Mahrez & it was all complete and utter bullshit.
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Does seem odd but maybe he wants them both (!) or maybe something has changed or...
 
Not too keen on Hazard. Never seen a player capable of being so incredible and so awful in the space of such a short time. To dominate English football we need consistency.
 
OB1 said:
Does seem odd but maybe he wants them both (!) or maybe something has changed or...
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or maybe we do have £300m to spend but as suggested won't spend it unless someone makes a move happen...so perhaps Hazard would always be a bonus that if it happened he'll just be added in, if not well our core business will be taken care of anyway.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Seems strange if we bid for Mahrez in January & if we sign him now, that Pep actually wanted Hazard yet is not willing to even wait a few weeks after the season to try & get him, even when Abramovic is struggling to get a visa & Chelsea have no confirmed manager for next season.

Not even given it two weeks.

Unless he actually never wanted Hazard at all & actually wants Mahrez & it was all complete and utter bullshit.
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I don't think it's that strange mate. Why are you so sure Mahrez is an alternative to Hazard?
Mahrez is a good rotational option for the wings, a strong competitior for Sterling and Sane.

Hazard, on the other hand, is an archetypal Guardiola's 'false 9' who would replace Aguero with the latter departing to Atl Madrid. Using EH on the wings just to stretch the play would be a waste of resources.

The first transfer is quite easy to execute, the second one is hardly possible. I'm not sure these 2 deals are interconnected.

Just my thoughts.
 
 
 
NQCitizen said:
Come on mate he only got 17 goals and 13 assists this season, he'll probably have to hope a Championship team take a chance on him...
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Exactly, during a bad season at that too. Hope Chelsea manage to get someone to take him off their hands for a few mil. What a burden
 
No doubt he'd be amazing for us but I don't see it happening.

Too often we see these situations where we're linked with top players who are getting close to the end of a contract. It's almost always been negotiating tactics to try to get more out of their current club. Hazard is Chelsea's best and most iconic player and their hire and fire model under Abramovic is starting to show signs of long term weakness versus United, who will always have the money, and the longer term approaches of City, Spurs and Liverpool. He knows he has them over a barrel.
 
OB1 said:
Does seem odd but maybe he wants them both (!) or maybe something has changed or...
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Well I've never believed we were ever really in for him.

We will enquire about a lot of players & I imagine aren't really interested in most but will put it to the manager & let him decide.

I can imagine Txiki's surprise when he said "Bony ?" to Pellegrini & Manuel said "yes".
 
Andrew___K said:
I don't think it's that strange mate. Why are you so sure Mahrez is an alternative to Hazard?
Mahrez is a good rotational option for the wings, a strong competitior for Sterling and Sane.

Hazard, on the other hand, is an archetypal Guardiola's 'false 9' who would replace Aguero with the latter departing to Atl Madrid. Using EH on the wings just to stretch the play would be a waste of resources.

The first transfer is quite easy to execute, the second one is hardly possible. I'm not sure these 2 deals are interconnected.

Just my thoughts.
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My thoughts are that Pep will continue to use a cf in the Prem as he did in Germany & Hazard has never been seriously considered as he is too old to justify the huge outlay on a gamble, which he seriously would be.

The 'false 9' only weakens the team unless it's a tactical switch or it's Lionel Messi (which Hazard will never be close to).

If he was 20, we would be right in for him & he would be 3 times the player he is now if we signed him.

Or if he was at the end of his contract, like Sanchez ( who, had he replaced Aguero as a 'false 9' would have put Pep out of a job) & willing to work within our wage structure, we would sign him. (Or if we had money to burn & he would sign for our wages we 'might' do it but I recon Pep would sign someone younger then as well.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
Exactly, during a bad season at that too. Hope Chelsea manage to get someone to take him off their hands for a few mil. What a burden
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We should be going all out for Hazard if he’s available. RVP moment, ruining a rival while adding massive to your own.
 
It’s not just the transfer fee though it’s the wages as well? Hazard would want at least £300,000 a week!
 
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