You're right it's like society some people are always negative and need a target to blame. I've no problem the needy have a voice as well.
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You're right it's like society some people are always negative and need a target to blame. I've no problem the needy have a voice as well.
If a player ends up at another club for whatever reason then that's it...just drop it City. By making excuses about why a player did not come just sounds like sour grapes and makes us look ridiculous...our rivals love it when we come out with crap like this.
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Sometimes I wonder if this forum is mainly occupied by City fans or trolls. It is why I don't post very often. City were screwed by a greedy southern Italian billionaire who wanted a lot more for a player who is good, but might not have the pace or intelligence to fill the roles of Yaya or Fernandinho. They agreed terms, and a price, and then Napoli tried to hold us to ransome. FFS! I have never heard of this guy before, I trust Pep so he must have potential, but we have to respect the club for refusing to shell out more cash just because Chelsea don't give a damn about value. They will probably lose their best asset anyway when Hazard leaves, and Sarri is a good manager but it will take him a couple of years to get them playing his way and Roman will sack him before they get good again. Delphi can adapt, he would probably do better in central midfield anyway. We need cover at left back for Mendy though.
Get out of here with your rational thought and common sense, this is no place for you ;)
Not quite. Im not sure what the wider criticism of city's PR team is to be honest, it does sound like a lot aren't happy. But as I've previously said the only thing that had narked me is the bullied rhetoric which is being reported to have come out of the club. Normally I could not give a toss about the inner machinations of the club. But seeing him then kissing Chelsea's badge etc. It cant be denied that if the line about him being bullied into the move came out of our club, it's not served us well because how he is currently presenting is totally contrary to what we have briefed. In the greater scheme of things fuck it but it's one more thing I'm gonna have to spend some time defending when mates inevitably begin to try to take the piss come Monday.The narrative has changed now Kaz, it's all PR bullshit by City.
They're harder without, and the last line? No chance
No chance? I'm sure last season was the first for a while both made the top 4.
It’s still something I believe to be true though. Once Napoli realised they had a potential auction with the Chelsea situation then they were well within their rights to hold out for more.What you said was
This is a deal that we could have gotten over the line had we been prepared to pay for it
That’s not an opinion. It’s presented as a fact.
That’s the point I was making in my earlier post
It’s a shitty move by them but not unprecedented in the world of football.
If we refused to budge on principal then fair fucks to City - but it sounds a bit like sour grapes complaining about something that I’m sure we knew was a possibility.
I’d be interested to know who the player would have signed for had both bids been identical.
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He will regret .
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Ofcourse we can cope. But what does that mean here? We can cope in the league but I really doubt we can in CL without an able deputy which Jorginho was. Anyway, it doesn't matter now considering he signed.To help out Dhino for any game. What I am saying is that if we select the games Dhino is rested, then without getting Jorginho, we can cope
That's exactly what I've just said. Not wholesale knocking the club or PR team. Players snub clubs all the time couldn't give a fuck. It's just that one issue and how it appears to make us look.If a player ends up at another club for whatever reason then that's it...just drop it City. By making excuses about why a player did not come just sounds like sour grapes and makes us look ridiculous...our rivals love it when we come out with crap like this.
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I dunno. The truth will come out in the end. The media are bound to question Jorginho, Guardiola, Sarri & ADL more intensely & each will defend their position vehemently.Was the hold up not Napoli wanting fewer payment periods (or all of it at once which Chelsea are claimed to have done)? The player can't do anything without his clubs permission.
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Utter fucking ****s.
I couldn't despise italian football clubs more than I already did but ADL has done a good job. Self-rightous holier than thou entitled ****s. They demand the earth but give nothing.
I fully believe City on this, and don't forget ADL admitted as was quoted saying sorry to City as even though he agreed a fee 15(fifteen) days ago they renegaded it.
And people will think I'm crazy but this is further proof that we are not, never have been, and never will be thought as in the same mind as the other clubs at the top table. We are despised throughout the old-guard, and I genuinely believe that, although not 100% always directly to fuck us over, when given the chance they will put the screw on us.
I couldn't despise italian football clubs more than I already did but ADL has done a good job. Self-rightous holier than thou entitled ****s. They demand the earth but give nothing.
I fully believe City on this, and don't forget ADL admitted as was quoted saying sorry to City as even though he agreed a fee 15(fifteen) days ago they renegaded it.
And people will think I'm crazy but this is further proof that we are not, never have been, and never will be thought as in the same mind as the other clubs at the top table. We are despised throughout the old-guard, and I genuinely believe that, although not 100% always directly to fuck us over, when given the chance they will put the screw on us.
Not quite. Im not sure what the wider criticism of city's PR team is to be honest, it does sound like a lot aren't happy. But as I've previously said the only thing that had narked me is the bullied rhetoric which is being reported to have come out of the club. Normally I could not give a toss about the inner machinations of the club. But seeing him then kissing Chelsea's badge etc. It cant be denied that if the line about him being bullied into the move came out of our club, it's not served us well because how he is currently presenting is totally contrary to what we have briefed. In the greater scheme of things fuck it but it's one more thing I'm gonna have to spend some time defending when mates inevitably begin to try to take the piss come Monday.
So it's all about your mates taking the piss FFS.
Both "sides" in this thread have been incredibly negative in their own way.You're right it's like society some people are always negative and need a target to blame. I've no problem the needy have a voice as well.
The irony must have gotten lost amongst the one-upmanship.
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To be perfectly honest, who ?
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You think he's being honest, kissing the badge on his first day at the club?Not quite. Im not sure what the wider criticism of city's PR team is to be honest, it does sound like a lot aren't happy. But as I've previously said the only thing that had narked me is the bullied rhetoric which is being reported to have come out of the club. Normally I could not give a toss about the inner machinations of the club. But seeing him then kissing Chelsea's badge etc. It cant be denied that if the line about him being bullied into the move came out of our club, it's not served us well because how he is currently presenting is totally contrary to what we have briefed. In the greater scheme of things fuck it but it's one more thing I'm gonna have to spend some time defending when mates inevitably begin to try to take the piss come Monday.
Both "sides" in this thread have been incredibly negative in their own way.
The irony must have gotten lost amongst the one-upmanship.
Like I said no problem with any opinion it's the fucking crap about our rivals are stronger, we're weaker. I'm just waiting for some clown to post we'll be lucky to make top 4 when a ball hasn't been kicked.
It was aimed at the mard arses on here. Our PR department can't win.
Ah right.
If you read my post it's clear that I talk about the impact on the club. Therefore the content of my post can't be nuanced down to me suggesting it's just about me. But if the question your asking the answer is no.So it's all about your mates taking the piss FFS.
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Agree for what it's worth.Never really cared about Jorginho but this is becoming a habit for us.
If we are going to refuse to ‘pay over the odds’ we can’t let deals dangle for weeks. It leads to the ‘gazumping’ actions we are seeing repeatedly.
Once is unfortunate, but two, three or four times starts to look careless...
That said teams now know if they take the piss it will be a long drawn out affair.
If you read my post it's clear that I talk about the impact on the club. Therefore the content of my post can't be nuanced down to me suggesting it's just about me. But if the question your asking the answer is no.
What impact, we're still Champions are we not.
Hope your mates don't go to hard on you....
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