United thread 2018/19

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dont forget bacon face's days were numbered too,but for a slice of luck..that would have been every manager sacked in the last 50 years, the true united way
 
blue by birth said:
Do you actually watch football???
Ffs mate they are fucking wank...not a question of blue glasses it's a case of being able to see what see and not get sucked into the media hype.. I suggest you give it a try...watch from your armchair without the volume on and make your own judgement.
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Well, i don't watch united lol, but what i have seen of the two of them i think i see two players who are held beck by the manager and the squads they play in.
I don't go for digital opinions, so i think there is a bit of ground between fucking wank and fucking amazing. As they stand, they are decent enough. Under Pep i think they would be very good.
 
NZBlue said:
Err, I think you'll find Jose is the biggest shit, has been and mercenary. He certainly is no scapegoat
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I'm not defending him at all. I hate him and all he stands for.

All I'm saying is in this current crisis the rag loving media have just about laid the entire blame at his door and conveniently ignored all the other wider problems with the club, it's owners, it's transfer policy and the fact that virtually all the current squad of players are simply not good enough regardless of who manages them or what style/tactics they attempt.
 
jacko74 said:
I'm not defending him at all. I hate him and all he stands for.

All I'm saying is in this current crisis the rag loving media have just about laid the entire blame at his door and conveniently ignored all the other wider problems with the club, it's owners, it's transfer policy and the fact that virtually all the current squad of players are simply not good enough regardless of who manages them or what style/tactics they attempt.
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It is 100% the club. It is what 30 years of success did to them. It blinded them and made them arrogant which (as it always does) bites you on the arse.
City need to carefully watch the demise of Utd and learn from them if we want to escape the same fate as we develop and grow.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Indeed, but you could say Jimmy Bullard could come out of retirement and develop here. Literally any player coming into our set up would be richer for it.

Martial I do believe would thrive in our system with a manager who isn't a twat.

Pogba definitely would, but he's a left winger that thinks he isn't. My thing with him and this isn't being an arse, but he'd be Delph at left back if he was here under Pep. That's where he'd be fit in, not in the middle and he isn't the type of winger for us.

Even Bailly and Lindelof would be better here.

All of the foreign players I mentioned have undoubted technical talent.

But on Rashford and Lingard, they are unbelievably overrated and it shocks me how some buy into it.
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But to disregard Lingards ability completely is a little harsh. I don't think he is a world beater, but he has shown quite a lot of moments of individual class especially last season. We hail Yaya for winning the FA Cup, he done the same. I in no way would have him ahead of any of our players, he is better than a comparison to Jimmy Bullard though.
 
Neville talks quite a bit of sense at times but he's clearly talking bollocks here. The evidence is there for all to see - United have sacked every single manager since WW2 except Busby and Ferguson, and if it wasn't for the huge amount of success those 2 achieved they'd have sacked a whole lot more, and that includes Ferguson until City fan Mark Robins famously saved his bacon (pardon the pun) in January 1990.

Was funny as fuck seeing the City fan call Neville out on Twitter for sacking 4 managers at Salford City in the past few years!
 
Henkeman said:
So more City managers have won the title than United ones...
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Thats the one, our last 3 have lifted the premier league. Whilst they are probably on the verge of binning off manager number 3, City can replace the brains of the operation on the football side of things and still win league titles, the rags cant.
 
Armchair Supporter said:
It is 100% the club. It is what 30 years of success did to them. It blinded them and made them arrogant which (as it always does) bites you on the arse.
City need to carefully watch the demise of Utd and learn from them if we want to escape the same fate as we develop and grow.
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How so we are a different animal....
A club like no other....

https://www.cityfootballgroup.com/Our-Story
 
Armchair Supporter said:
Well, i don't watch united lol, but what i have seen of the two of them i think i see two players who are held beck by the manager and the squads they play in.
I don't go for digital opinions, so i think there is a bit of ground between fucking wank and fucking amazing. As they stand, they are decent enough. Under Pep i think they would be very good.
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Well I tend to watch lots of games including the rags ( always wanting them to get hammered as they did Saturday) but from what I've seen of the Wythenshawe Pele and the dabbing dickhead I've not been overly impressed.
To me they are just overhyped because they play for the scum... Bit like the debate they have as to whose better Raz or Rashford, to me it's a no contest because Raz is in a different league to him.
It's all about opinions mate and you are entitled to yours.. But we have to agree to disagree on this.
 
Armchair Supporter said:
It is 100% the club. It is what 30 years of success did to them. It blinded them and made them arrogant which (as it always does) bites you on the arse.
City need to carefully watch the demise of Utd and learn from them if we want to escape the same fate as we develop and grow.
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I think that our owner and his board have shown far greater understanding of how to run a club,than the pricks from America.HH has already put into place "self sufficient" policies which are working very well,we have a transfer strategy that has seen some wonderful talents coming into our club and long gone are the days of mercenaries arriving for more than cash alone,but to want to win trophies.
There are no comparisons between our clubs.One loves money more than points,the other understands what must and must not be done,to become a true powerhouse in world football and not to become complacent ... something which those arrogant pricks from Trafford,have fallen foul off and its now come home to roost.
It couldn`t happen to a nicer club,but even better to its shit house fans, who are now seeing Gary Cooks foresight in how to overtake our "quiet neighbours" both on and off the pitch.
As Del Boy would say "loverly jubberly".
Long may it continue my fellow Blues.
 
M18CTID said:
Neville talks quite a bit of sense at times but he's clearly talking bollocks here. The evidence is there for all to see - United have sacked every single manager since WW2 except Busby and Ferguson, and if it wasn't for the huge amount of success those 2 achieved they'd have sacked a whole lot more, and that includes Ferguson until City fan Mark Robins famously saved his bacon (pardon the pun) in January 1990.

Was funny as fuck seeing the City fan call Neville out on Twitter for sacking 4 managers at Salford City in the past few years!
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When Gary Nutter is on about football generally he does talk 'some' sense. When part of the equation involves MANUre he cannot adopt an impartial view in the same way that when I watch City every fuckin' ref robs us blind sixty times a minute. He cannot help himself - he's a stick of Blackpool rock with MUFC running through him!
 
WhenProgrammesWereAShilling said:
So, is it the manager or the way the club is structured? They always seem to want a dictator, someone who runs the club from top to bottom and the guys who own the club just take the money. Football has changed though and players call the tune now, is that why the club so often gets it wrong with appointing new management? Ive a feeling it dont matter what happens to Mourinho or who is appointed when he finally goes, its doomed to failure (which is success from my point of view).
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Unfortunately United have routes into the capital markets that the majority of other clubs can't access and if they needed to they could literally start from scratch in restructuring middle management get a director of football and new manager, coaching staff and players and take a huge financial hit but doing that will take quite a few years.

I assume they will try and nick our blueprint for this as well. Any hopes of them emulating the dippers with decades in the wilderness is just wishful thinking but the short term outlook for them is very gloomy indeed with intermittent spells of false raised hopes for the next few seasons.
 
I'd be slightly concerned with Zidane being appointed not because he's a great manager but because he is a tremendous pull for a whole generation of (especially French, but not exclusively) footballers. He obviously didn't buy a ton at Madrid because of the squad he inherited but given the comical wages and transfer fees United throw around they could bring in some serious talent very quickly. Even if Zidane doesn't work out as a manager with a little bit of luck they could easily rehabilitate themselves over the next summer or two.
 
cjn said:
I'd be slightly concerned with Zidane being appointed not because he's a great manager but because he is a tremendous pull for a whole generation of (especially French, but not exclusively) footballers. He obviously didn't buy a ton at Madrid because of the squad he inherited but given the comical wages and transfer fees United throw around they could bring in some serious talent very quickly. Even if Zidane doesn't work out as a manager with a little bit of luck they could easily rehabilitate themselves over the next summer or two.
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Where has Zidane proved himself capable of building a squad?
 
They have no strategy on the pitch or off it. Their debt is slowly bringing them down and the squad is in massive need of a major overhaul. They have regressed so far since Fergy stepped down that whoever they bring in will have a challenge on their hands. We are light years ahead of them now and long may it continue. I'll never tire of kicking them when they are down. Karma is a wonderful thing and the years of kicking I got off them through the years when I was younger will last long in the memory. Funny now how most of their fans are suddenly bored of football now or have taken up other interests.
 
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