Leicester v City post match

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Think you may have that wrong, it depends which side Pep decides to target, usually the give away is Spanish Dave will drop left with Bernard pulling to the right to overload one side or the other.
When Gundogan plays, the ball out of defence is far slower and the opp defence compressed into their half making it easier for Sane to be picked up, without Spanish running along side he has nowhere to go but back to Delph or try and turn, (Gundogan rarely plays a ball in front of him to run onto), my answer would be play Foden in the SD role and Vinny as the DM (Thats what we bought him as).

Good post & agree.

Sane has been getting some stick but it’s no coincidence in our recent poor results that our build up play from our midfield has been far too slow & pedestrian so when Sane does receive the ball the defense has regrouped & he faces 2-3 players to take on and then inevitably check back on.

Ball needs to get to him much sooner & overall we need our passing to be much slicker & faster with a snap to it which has been missing the past few games. Gundog has been guilty of this especially yesterday when he played the safer ball sideways or back instead of passing forward trying to split the Leicester defense-mind you most of our midfield had a shocker & was disappointed with Sterling’s performance.
 
So you’d rather Pep risked long-term injury to Kevin than listen to medical advice?

OK.

Yeah, agree. If Guardiola had played DeBruyne all match, you'd have heard people say that Pep was reckless and borderline negligant.

The important thing is the long term health of DeBruyne. Obviously it's disappointing to drop 2 points, but the manager needs to take care of the player. David Silva coming in was hardly an inadequate replacement, either.
 
Think you may have that wrong, it depends which side Pep decides to target, usually the give away is Spanish Dave will drop left with Bernard pulling to the right to overload one side or the other.
When Gundogan plays, the ball out of defence is far slower and the opp defence compressed into their half making it easier for Sane to be picked up, without Spanish running along side he has nowhere to go but back to Delph or try and turn, (Gundogan rarely plays a ball in front of him to run onto), my answer would be play Foden in the SD role and Vinny as the DM (Thats what we bought him as).

you need to watch the games again, it's always the case that either sane or sterling hug their lines, however sterling turns his body to suit the opening, sane always remains with his back to goal or looking down the defensive line , if his positioning was even a little more towards the opposition goal then the opportunity for him to leave defenders for dead would arise more often. Sane virtually always runs inside or backwards if he's given the ball, he could easily open defences up with a different starting position. I agree Gundogan isn't the player to put him through, however his positioning doesn't change from Silva to Gundogan to De Bruyne.
 
He only had 70 mins in him,would you rather he say on longer then is out again for months

These were the same people who were slagging Pep off for keeping him on the pitch too long against Fulham, when he picked up his 2nd knee problem,
 
you need to watch the games again, it's always the case that either sane or sterling hug their lines, however sterling turns his body to suit the opening, sane always remains with his back to goal or looking down the defensive line , if his positioning was even a little more towards the opposition goal then the opportunity for him to leave defenders for dead would arise more often. Sane virtually always runs inside or backwards if he's given the ball, he could easily open defences up with a different starting position. I agree Gundogan isn't the player to put him through, however his positioning doesn't change from Silva to Gundogan to De Bruyne.

Maybe its you that needs to re watch games, V Leicester/Palace there were ALWAYS two and more often three on Sane, without an inside man to play one twos with, he is forced either back or try and wriggle through two/three players, he hardly had a ball played for him to run on to. your right his position does not change with Spanish Dave or KDB alongside him, but the goals/chances that come from the left do. ;0)
 
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We can easily still do the title, that isn’t an issue. The main problem imo is that we need to beat the dippers next Thursday and as it stands that is not going to be easy!
No it was never going to be easy and it will be damn hard now. Your right ab out the dippers but don't forget there is a game before that one. If we lose or draw against Southamton I don't think we deserve to win the title tbf.
 
Right. Deep breath…
First off, nobody bother calling me a happy clapper, because I’m not fucking happy, and I’m not fucking clapping. Definitely not.
Three defeats in about three weeks. That’s abysmal for a team that has any kind of title pretensions, and there’s no two ways about it. But the thing that’s really doing my head in, I’m having real difficulty putting my hand on my heart and saying that we were actually dominated in any of those three matches. Far from it. Of course, the results say we were. But in fact, at Chelsea, we played them off the park right up until the moment they scored. Even in the second half, in fact, I have it even. That’s the match I saw. Against Palace, we’re clearly dominating them, same against Leicester yesterday. That’s why we go a goal up. Our goals didn’t come out of the blue, they were the result of the sort of patient, precise work that we’ve become famous for. But literally as soon as the other side attacks, it’s a stupid fucking goal (o.k, one world-class goal by Palace, one very, very fine strike by Leicester in the mix). Walker was lousy the other day, Delph made a howling, pub side mistake in his positioning yesterday. But you play as a team. More times than people care to recognise, there was at least one player on the pitch having a poor game even last season. But it was not particularly noticed, because we were playing as a team in every sense of the word. You run for your team-mates; you pass for them; and you cover for them when they make a blunder, which they’re going to do. It’s definitional. That’s what a team is. Simply. We’re not cohering properly as a team at present. But in none of the three matches we’ve just thrown away would I allow that we were dominated, in overall play. That is not an excuse, or a justification for what’s just happened.
I’m not convinced by the Fernandinho argument. Yes, he’s a superb player. Yes, he’s very important in the way we play. Last season, we went through a long period in mid-season without David Silva, who is one of the greatest players in the world, and the best player who’s been at this club. We sailed along, winning all the way. Even without him. If anything, winning for him. One player does not make all that difference. Not in a team as good as ours.
One negative advantage of the situation now is that everything is beautifully simple: if we lose the next two matches (and nobody needs telling what the second one represents), then I honestly think it’s gone. Thirteen points? No, really, not possible. Dippers will drop points here and there, sure. But they’d have to fall off a cliff. And we’d have to win virtually every single match till the end of the season. Do we look like a team that’s going to do that, at present?
So we have to win the next two matches, just to tread water.
Oh, and yes, it’s on another thread. But for me, winning a back to back premier league title is definitely more important than winning the CL (not that that’s not important).
Oh, and one other thing. People are playing out of their skins against us. We are a scalp and and a half. It’s flattering, in a pissing-off kind of way. Chelsea play like demons against us, with Luiz running everywhere, then lose at home straight away (to Leicester). Leicester themselves have been up and down. Palace beat us at our place and draw at their own place to Cardiff! You cannot make this stuff up.
Oh yes you can make it up. Against Chelsea we started well and could have scored but they were terrible for the first 30 mins, watch the game again if you don't believe me. When they got there passing going they were very dangerous on the break and defensively they shut us out. In the end they were by far the better team. Palace and Leicster deserved to win even though we probably should of salvaged two draws. The key again was poor defending and a failure to break down the opposition. Needless to say teams will raise their game when they play us they are not about to roll over and die! Now of course losing key players has hurt us but if our squad and manager are as good as some believe we should at least be picking up points. That said I don't think we should panic just yet if we can keep the gap as it is until after the FA Cup game we can clear our heads and access the situation in a more calm manner. Personally I think it might be back to the planning board and start building again for the future. Can't see Vinny, Fern, David and Kun been here in two years time. Add to that some others who appear to have been found out we may be facing into two big summer windows just to keep pace. Interesting times lie ahead.
 
No it was never going to be easy and it will be damn hard now. Your right ab out the dippers but don't forget there is a game before that one. If we lose or draw against Southamton I don't think we deserve to win the title tbf.

It won't be a question of deserve you either win it or you don't and this season the odds are slim now despite the bookies quote because we will drop too many points pure and simple.

If we do win it we will do so because we deserve it especially given Liverpool's total they will obtain this season.

Having a makeshift defence and lack of quality support in the DM's position are costing us victories now and that is what making life very difficult for us in the premiership presently.

I am comfortable in the knowledge we will address our shortages over the summer and you will see a more accomplished outfit next season once again.
 
We needed a replacement for Fern in the summer and nothing has changed. I thought Mendy and Delph would be enough at LB but Mendy's injuries and erratic defending allied with a fall off in Delph's form in that role mean that getting another fit for purpose LB in should be a priority. Unfortunately, I think City will sit on their hands again. I'm a huge admirer of what the club has achieved and how, in may ways it is run, but we are just not ruthless enough (on the pitch and in the transfer market).
Yes I agree with the on the pitch comment we badly lack a ruthless streak and have no real leadership with Vinny now out to grass. But we can regroup the problem is we have hit piss poor form at the worst possible time with so many points up for grabs during this period.
 
I would rather see city have a slump right now than at the later stage of the season, all we need is a convincing win to change it all around.
We have to address our complacency issues which have popped up in the past as well.
 
Some other telling stats.
We have had 151 corners all season and scored 3. Apparently Pep had them in Christmas Eve to address this.
We had 13 v Palace and 6 v Leicester, that's 19 In 2 games yet still lost both games.
 
Some other telling stats.
We have had 151 corners all season and scored 3. Apparently Pep had them in Christmas Eve to address this.
We had 13 v Palace and 6 v Leicester, that's 19 In 2 games yet still lost both games.

But in the main we are relying on the likes of Laporte, Stones or Otters to convert corners. The cross has to be pinpoint and the marking poor. Our strikers, apart from Sergio, are not renowned scorers from headers, more for being vertically challenged. Anyone seen Dzeko lately?
 
Thanks for all the feedback, lads. Some agree with me, some don’t. That’s the way a forum rolls, and it’s all to the good. @chesterbells after a defeat, analysis is the only therapy that works for me. I’m a rank amateur at that game, but I know one thing for sure in the middle of this mini-shambles that we’re in: the manager that we have is the best in the world, bar none, where analysis is concerned. You can be sure that he will have been analysing like crazy since Boxing Day. He is the best man to put this right.
@Father Paul on the Chelsea match, we’ll agree to disagree. That’s not the match I saw, and FWIW, I was at Stamford Bridge for that one. They dominated us for about ten minutes at the start of the second half. That was it. A very good breakaway goal, it has to be recognised, and an excellent corner from Hazard, who was superb that day. Anyway, it’s gone, long gone.
In many ways, we’re playing the same football that we were playing in August. But at about 2/3 of the pace, at best. This, as everyone can see, allows defences to set up at their leisure. Especially against our two wingers.
I do believe this, though, with thorough conviction. KDB plays one of his world-class games (as against Spurs and several others last season) and it will reboot the entire team.
 
But in the main we are relying on the likes of Laporte, Stones or Otters to convert corners. The cross has to be pinpoint and the marking poor. Our strikers, apart from Sergio, are not renowned scorers from headers, more for being vertically challenged. Anyone seen Dzeko lately?

Totally agree but begs the question if no height then why the high corner?
 
Totally agree but begs the question if no height then why the high corner?
You have to beat the 'first' man.
The taller he is, the higher the ball needs to be.
The only alternative is a short corner and play through the defence or try a shot from distance.
 
City can and will win the title this season, yes we have had a disasterous month but we can come back from it, we’ve won the league twice before from seemingly insurmountable odds with a few games left, not 19, half a season... People slagging Pep, slagging players and the Club in general can fuck right off, mard arsed twats one and all... The City fans I roll with get behind the club when the chips are down ... We are still in with a shout in all competitions, beggars belief how some claim to be fans but spew such bile when we are not winning 5-0 every week ...
 
Some other telling stats.
We have had 151 corners all season and scored 3. Apparently Pep had them in Christmas Eve to address this.
We had 13 v Palace and 6 v Leicester, that's 19 In 2 games yet still lost both games.
Coz they're all out-swingers.

View from a scientist who studies ball flight: the best corners are the ones that inswing rather than outswing and quickly-taken corners have potential to cause trouble
 

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