Chris Grayling - is there no beginning to this mans talents?

bluethrunthru said:
So we go from a situation where the 27 other EU members are able to "interfere" with us by way of our EU membership to a situation where the rest of the world can ??? We enter a world where theoretically we want to do something but any one of a hundred and sixty odd WTO members can block it?? And thats better??
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I think I very clearly said the WTO rarely if ever does interfere yes?

Why do you live in such a doom and gloom world?
 
bluethrunthru said:
So we go from a situation where the 27 other EU members are able to "interfere" with us by way of our EU membership to a situation where the rest of the world can ??? We enter a world where theoretically we want to do something but any one of a hundred and sixty odd WTO members can block it?? And thats better??
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Plus, apologies in advance, but one of those countries is us and your lot are fucking around with the GFA. WTO stuff seems to happen retroactively but that won't stop the hardliners here from making a mess if the border goes up with the way the narrative has gone.
Again, apologies, not my politics but just saying what will happen not what I want to see happen.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I had pondered that one myself - I'd imagine some journo is working hard at the moment - god help them if there are any links back to the govt / family / friends
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No ferries or staff.
Recently set up.
No guarantee they'll be called upon to fulfil the contract.
Minimum payment if contract cancelled.
No hope in hell of being ready in time.

Looks very suspicious.
 
aguero93:20 said:
No ferries or staff.
Recently set up.
No guarantee they'll be called upon to fulfil the contract.
Minimum payment if contract cancelled.
No hope in hell of being ready in time.

Looks very suspicious.
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Its Ok - our Chris tells us they have been vetted ................ watch him run a mile in record time when it goes tits up whilst denying it was anything to do with him - thats his standard M.O.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Its Ok - our Chris tells us they have been vetted ................ watch him run a mile in record time when it goes tits up whilst denying it was anything to do with him - thats his standard M.O.
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Won't happen no deal still a non option.
 
ganganvince said:
Won't happen no deal still a non option.
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which is the entire reason why this shell company has been set up and why if no deal happens it will be an unmitigated disaster. They will not acquire any of the right vessels in sufficient numbers in time, they will not have the Ramsgate ferry terminal ready in time - all that will cost money they have no intention of spending because if there is a deal the contract will not be activated but they get to keep a sizeable chunk of money for doing the square root of Jack Shit. They are playing Grayling like the broken piano he is - or maybe someone he knows is behind it. Time will out.
 
I'm highly critical of anything aking to personally cults in Politics. More often than not it boils down to people just try to promote their own views trough some idealised figure of authority.

I'm would also be surprised to see many Brits subscribing to such things. As i know Brits they don't like personallity cults at all.
 
Useless
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****y **** ****.

Today on the trains, blaming staff for being paid as the reason for price rises being needed and then admitting it isn't value for money.
 
aguero93:20 said:
No ferries or staff.
Recently set up.
No guarantee they'll be called upon to fulfil the contract.
Minimum payment if contract cancelled.
No hope in hell of being ready in time.

Looks very suspicious.
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Interesting thread on Twitter here from a QC (specialising in shipping industry) dispelling some myths FYI



Looks like it's one of those "great headline, innocuous story" situations.
 
Damocles said:
Interesting thread on Twitter here from a QC (specialising in shipping industry) dispelling some myths FYI



Looks like it's one of those "great headline, innocuous story" situations.
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I'm aware of the ownership structure, it's still not as clear cut as clicking your fingers and having chartered captains and ships though and with the rush to award the contracts it's perfectly acceptable to want proof that they can provide the ships. It would have made a lot more sense to contract someone like P&O or Stena.
 
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