Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

BobKowalski said:
To put it in some context Ocasio-Cortez has been a Congresswoman for a mere 6 days and already has a 15 page thread on a UK based football forum so she clearly has a knack for capturing attention.

Also she drives RWNJ’s and Conservatives insane and triggers them into flinging poop all over the place so she’s definitely worth cheering on :)
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She encapsulates everything the old RWNJs in the GOP hate:

Woman.
Thinks she is the equal of a man.
Young.
Woman.
Ethnic.
Not chained to the kitchen sink.
Woman.
Not afraid of them.
Democratic Socialist who identifies with allied nations such as a Germany & Norway.
Woman.

Did you realize that it is 2019 and America STILL does NOT legally recognize, constitutionally, that all PEOPLE in the USA have equal rights?

The Equal Rights Amendment was introduced in Congress for the first time in 1921, and here we sit, almost ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER and American politics cannot agree that a man and a woman should have equal rights under the federal law of the land!!

Maybe, just maybe, electing progressive women will help change this immoral abomination of yesteryear. Maybe...

Oldtimerdiscopants probably just creamed himself in ecstasy!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
How does one move the needle if one isn’t willing to try to advance the agenda away from the trend line of the last 39 years?

She got elected to help achieve that, which is also why a record number of women were elected. They are generally seen as steadier, more willing to accommodate the views of others, and not be petulant children, like the President.

Beto in TX was another example. Good speaker, roused the base and almost upset the guy who was #2 in the race for the Republican nomination for President. Many say he only lost because Cruz embraced Trump and got the seal of approval that helped the rural voter punch his ticket. That embrace was on a man who called him a liar, said his father was part of the JFK assassination plot, and that his wife looked like a smacked arse that only a mother could love!

So, yes, I understand your penchant for the likes of people like that...who get stuff done FOR THEMSELVES...but then if AOC is the silver spooner, why would she stand on such a leftie platform for her constituents?

And, I’m not sure in what world $15,000 is real money, but in Brooklyn NYC and DC, it is a months expenses! My son, who works a summer job at Home Depot (B&Q) when he is not in Uni, has more money than that!

Yes, AOC is on the top of the crest of the Blue Wave entering Congress, but let’s not openly, and somewhat flippantly, dismiss her just yet. After all, it’s been A WHOLE WEEK and Congress isn’t even in session (I don’t think, but I’m on my hols and not watching TV!) and Pelosi hasn’t had a chance to explain the big girl realities of DC to the noobs yet.

Remember Hillary and health care during Bill’s stint in the White House? Didn’t get it done, but moved the needle to help make the thought of The Affordable Care Act somewhat palatable. 20 years later, after Republican rule and a new Dem in the WH, it became a reality. The speed of molasses? Maybe, but that’s how DC works.

Nancy and Ronnie and Just Say No, to legalized marijuana sweeping the country. I’m not sure which issues AOC is going to hang her hat on, but you can bet that if she doesn’t get new legislation passed to accomplish it, she will at least move the conversation forward, possibly changing some minds and making the issue seem somewhat more reasonable, for many Americans.

I understand the “all politicians spout platitudes” and “she can’t get XYZ done in 2019 America,” but she can start the dialogue and she can put a young, fresh, ethnic face on it. That alone is progress!
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I agree with you on moving the dialogue forward. Think of the issues in UK that took decades of conversations to become a reality:
Home rule for Ireland
Votes for women
Decriminalization of gay sex (first campaigned immed post war)
The right to roam (mass trespass on Kinder Scout 1932)
Employment rights (centuries in the making, Think Tolpuddle.)
Etc etc etc.
 
idahoblues said:
He’s gonna need some new discopants. ;-)
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I am tempted to believe his discopants are quite new, as is his username and he has been a poster on here a lot longer than since last August, doung a bang up job of hiding who is was in a past life :-)

idahoblues said:
I would
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Only took 17 pages for such a comment ;-) poor for BM that, though she is attractive.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
She encapsulates everything the old RWNJs in the GOP hate:

Woman.
Thinks she is the equal of a man.
Young.
Woman.
Ethnic.
Not chained to the kitchen sink.
Woman.
Not afraid of them.
Democratic Socialist who identifies with allied nations such as a Germany & Norway.
Woman.

Did you realize that it is 2019 and America STILL does NOT legally recognize, constitutionally, that all PEOPLE in the USA have equal rights?

The Equal Rights Amendment was introduced in Congress for the first time in 1921, and here we sit, almost ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER and American politics cannot agree that a man and a woman should have equal rights under the federal law of the land!!

Maybe, just maybe, electing progressive women will help change this immoral abomination of yesteryear. Maybe...

Oldtimerdiscopants probably just creamed himself in ecstasy!
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Nah, She's just a naive socialist with a high profile.
No one actually gives a shit about her sex except you mate.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
She encapsulates everything the old RWNJs in the GOP hate:

Woman.
Thinks she is the equal of a man.
Young.
Woman.
Ethnic.
Not chained to the kitchen sink.
Woman.
Not afraid of them.
Democratic Socialist who identifies with allied nations such as a Germany & Norway.
Woman.

Did you realize that it is 2019 and America STILL does NOT legally recognize, constitutionally, that all PEOPLE in the USA have equal rights?

The Equal Rights Amendment was introduced in Congress for the first time in 1921, and here we sit, almost ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER and American politics cannot agree that a man and a woman should have equal rights under the federal law of the land!!

Maybe, just maybe, electing progressive women will help change this immoral abomination of yesteryear. Maybe...

Oldtimerdiscopants probably just creamed himself in ecstasy!
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Bang on,

although I’d class her as a Social Democrat as opposed to a Democratic Socialist, but that’s a minor point :-)
 
She has demonstrated the ideal approach to what a representative in Congress should always be doing - representing the interests of her constituency, not special interests & lobbyists. It's early days but I hope she continues this way & revolutionizes the political landscape, long may it continue - US needs it badly
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Nah, She's just a naive socialist with a high profile.
No one actually gives a shit about her sex except you mate.
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Said by a MAN living far away from the actual events. Well done!

You’re correct, of course, because the right is never wrong, even though they have been on the wrong side of both the history and economics of the US for centuries.

Lincoln is rolling in his grave.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Said by a MAN living far away from the actual events. Well done!

You’re correct, of course, because the right is never wrong, even though they have been on the wrong side of both the history and economics of the US for centuries.

Lincoln is rolling in his grave.
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I suspect the republican Abe would have amore pragmatic view.
Maybe he'd agree with the comment.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
I suspect the republican Abe would have amore pragmatic view.
Maybe he'd agree with the comment.
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I meant Abe would be rolling in his grave at what has become of the Republicans and what passes for their politics today.

As the President who created the team of rivals, I’d venture he would keep her closer than far!
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Just another middle class angst peddler, cut through all the right on, worthy, socialist fairy stories, debunked years ago, and it's all just basically putting up taxes.
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Actually, it is a redistribution of both wealth (in the form of government revenues) and expenditures away from corporations and those that control them back to the citizenry that has been left behind since ideas from people like Friedman became right wing gospel.

In the latter stages of the 20th century, Corporatist dogma has suckered millions of people into thinking they have a stake in the American Dream because they have some Apple stock in their 3% matching 401(K) plan! Meanwhile, their piece de resistance, a one time laundering of THOUSANDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS has led to the largest transfer of corporate wealth to the 1% in history, all while creating a significantly lower tax burden on them. This is all taking effect as the longest, most profitable stock market run in American history sputters on, as Ma & Pa America step into the Big Game just in time to have their face ripped off!

And, when you mentioned “middle class angst peddlers,” I got confused. Were you talking about Trump supporters who believe every utterance he makes, regardless of how outrageous or diametrically opposed to reality it might be, or were you talking about this upstart New Yorker who beat the odds and is living what is left of the American Dream???

You should watch “Mr Smith goes to Washington.” Today, it might be called “Young women have had enough and are taking their message to DC.”

Realize that doesn’t fit with the testosterone filled Bluemoon Patriarchy, but “coming ready or not,” they’re here!
 
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ChicagoBlue said:
Who mentioned him? Only you, that I can see??

Or, are you saying AOC is Hitler?

What EXACTLY, other than “Hey, look what I found on the Internet!” are you saying?
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he's trolling. no reasonable person from a faraway country could be that hostile to a newly elected politician other than deep prejudice, or just trolling.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Who mentioned him? Only you, that I can see??

Or, are you saying AOC is Hitler?

What EXACTLY, other than “Hey, look what I found on the Internet!” are you saying?
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Lost or has nowt new to bring to the arguement so resorts to stupid pics or memes, it is a tactic of the more conservative leaning, reduce the debate to nonsense, wind up the opposition, wait for them to call them out or lose their rag, accuse them of being aggresive and abusive, kill debate.
 
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