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Rabbi Matondo
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aguero93:20
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Off the top of my head just Foden and Sancho.Lot of fans get easily moulded in there opinions through the media. That U17 world cup winning team how many of those players are getting starts in any games and game time?
It's a tough call. It won't be too long, unfortunately, before David Silva, Fernandinho, Sergio, Vinnie and Ota will be coming to the end of their career. Replacing those players, like for like, will be half a billion, or close to. in the current market and it's not going to happen. Players like Foden, Garcia, Doyle, Gomes, Richards, Matondo, Poveda and Fiorini could be the players who are gradually introduced. We will never know if they, their agents or families, aren't prepared to be patient.
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Wasn't that OBVIOUS mate, calm yourself down. It leads to a steady revenue stream and players like Foden so wind your neck in.I don't even know where to start.
I OBVIOUSLY meant academy players into the team, I don't care about recruiting FOR the academy if its leads to nothing for the team.
Sane and Raz are our starting wingers and have played so much, there have even been games where one of them were NOT on the bench or starting line up to rest them.
This is where the academy lads gets on the bench.
Senior players would accept not being on the bench, because its a full day of rest, some of these players have played TOO much, they are not spoiled brats, that will take the day off.
Anyways, like I mentioned before I will just mentally check out of all of this if we lose them, just can't care anymore.
Yeah you are right, and who was on the bench in their place?
Well I don't believe they would, they want to play. Rarely do senior players ask for a rest. They are losing out on glory and money.
Seems a bit dramatic to "check out" after the loss of a couple of players, only one of which is tearing apart a few farmers in Bundesliga and Angelino is bagging assists in a weak dutch league, the rest are pretty much doing nothing of note.
EDIT: I will leave this here as we are going off topic, best of luck to you.
Your taking the weak ass approach here.Wasn't that OBVIOUS mate, calm yourself down. It leads to a steady revenue stream and players like Foden so wind your neck in.
Yeah you are right, and who was on the bench in their place?
Well I don't believe they would, they want to play. Rarely do senior players ask for a rest. They are losing out on glory and money.
Seems a bit dramatic to "check out" after the loss of a couple of players, only one of which is tearing apart a few farmers in Bundesliga and Angelino is bagging assists in a weak dutch league, the rest are pretty much doing nothing of note.
EDIT: I will leave this here as we are going off topic, best of luck to you.
Who was on the bench in their place? Since we can only sub 3 on, I'd say 4 players uselessly.
Lose out on glory because your resting and not on the bench? Okay there buddy, the bench is where all the glory is right? Also you still get paid if your not on the bench...
A couple of players? We are losing all of them, and not integrated any other players we have on loan.
You are severely underplaying the situation, and with all due respect, it's obvious you don't care about it in the first place. One day maybe I will stop giving a shit too...
Off the top of my head just Foden and Sancho.
Yep and that lad at liverpool who was top goal scorer in that comp hasnt had a snif at liverpool but Dick head Ducker thought it was Staggering that Foden didnt start the Burton game 3 days after playing 90 mins! This is the media setting the Narative that some fans fall for! Dont be a sheep think for yourselves.
You have to ignore the media when they're stupid (often). Foden is being integrated into the squad, things are happening for him. It's just that it's only been him and nobody else for a LONG time, so the media harps on us about it.Yep and that lad at liverpool who was top goal scorer in that comp hasnt had a snif at liverpool but Dick head Ducker thought it was Staggering that Foden didnt start the Burton game 3 days after playing 90 mins! This is the media setting the Narative that some fans fall for! Dont be a sheep think for yourselves.
You have to ignore the media when they're stupid (often). Foden is being integrated into the squad, things are happening for him. It's just that it's only been him and nobody else for a LONG time, so the media harps on us about it.
No problem with that? What i do have a problem with is its mainly us they go on about we know why.
Off the top of my head just Foden and Sancho.
Gibbs-White, Smith-Rowe and Loader have all started games this season
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More than Foden?Gibbs-White, Smith-Rowe and Loader have all started games this season
I think your referring to the media here? Yes I have no problem with that, the media is full of shit very often, easy to tune that crap out.No problem with that? What i do have a problem with is its mainly us they go on about we know why.
Tbf Brewster has been injured for most of the time after the U17 world cupYep and that lad at liverpool who was top goal scorer in that comp hasnt had a snif at liverpool but Dick head Ducker thought it was Staggering that Foden didnt start the Burton game 3 days after playing 90 mins! This is the media setting the Narative that some fans fall for! Dont be a sheep think for yourselves.
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The 4 are only useless if you can see the future and know what injuries are going to occur or what tactical tweaks may be needed. Unless you are saying Pep should know his 3 changes before the game and youth players should take some of the unused spots as a token gesture.Who was on the bench in their place? Since we can only sub 3 on, I'd say 4 players uselessly.
Gibbs-White, Smith-Rowe and Loader have all started games this season
Yeah we aint seen any of the media going on and on that it not enough because they've had next to no time on the pitch.
Tbf Brewster has been injured for most of the time after the U17 world cup
Must been a bad injury
He should DEFINITELY have an idea of his 3 subs before the game, would be negligent to not have that in mind.The 4 are only useless if you can see the future and know what injuries are going to occur or what tactical tweaks may be needed. Unless you are saying Pep should know his 3 changes before the game and youth players should take some of the unused spots as a token gesture.
Obviously injuries and specific tactical tweaks might change his thought, but again I'd argue an academy player can easily be on the bench with those things in mind.
Here is an example:
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Otamendi
Danilo <------------------start Danilo next game, put Frimpong here
Mahrez <------------------ start Mahrez next game, put Poveda or Matondo here
Jesus <------------------start Jesus next game, put academy striker here (all injured unfortunately)
Gundogan <------------------start Gundogan next game, put Nmecha or Bernabe here
Foden
You only have to do this to one of these players and insert academy lad, this can be done EVERY game with ease.
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One problem we have is that young players often get no or limited time on the pitch because the senior players fail to convert their superiority into an unassailable lead quickly enough; like it or not, Guardiola appears to see three clear goals as the required breathing space to introduce young substitutes. A positive of that is that it creates a strong sense of cohesion amongst the first-team elite, who know they can rely upon each other to get the job done. However, it also fosters the idea of an almost ever-growing divide between the first-team squad and the rest, and perversely that means the likes of Sane (just as an example) have nobody breathing down their necks, which means that they, in turn, are more relaxed as they know they will be in the squad for the next game.
It’s nothing new, Pellegrini did, and all others do, complain about how difficult and how complicated it is. That said, when a club of our ability can get through nearly a whole season without or at best carrying a left-back, then I think a little more could have been done to bring through players.
It’s nothing new, Pellegrini did, and all others do, complain about how difficult and how complicated it is. That said, when a club of our ability can get through nearly a whole season without or at best carrying a left-back, then I think a little more could have been done to bring through players.
I'll preface by saying I'm not one to get excited by prospects, either here or in American sports, but as I understand it, prior to the rumors this weekend, no one really rated him much beyond "has a chance to be a good player". Someone compared him to Sancho and was laughed at because they aren't apparently aren't even close to the same level of talent. But now that he's going to leave it's a huge indictment of the academy, proof that the club has no idea what it's doing, Pep has to take the blame, etc. What am I missing here?
If he doesn't want to stay, thats fine. Just this week we're rumored to be signing Ilaix Moriba, another 15 year old La Masia kid. We bring talented kids in, develop them, and if you're an absolute top drawer talent you'll get a shot with the first team when the time comes. Given that Pep didn't even have him training with the squad he clearly doesn't rate him on that level and as result he's moving on. It's a conveyor belt. No big deal either way.
If he doesn't want to stay, thats fine. Just this week we're rumored to be signing Ilaix Moriba, another 15 year old La Masia kid. We bring talented kids in, develop them, and if you're an absolute top drawer talent you'll get a shot with the first team when the time comes. Given that Pep didn't even have him training with the squad he clearly doesn't rate him on that level and as result he's moving on. It's a conveyor belt. No big deal either way.
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Yep, he was apparently the fastest in end of season testing over 20 metres at the end of last season and that has made him into a world beater (by people who know that one little fact about him). Actual skill doesn't appear to matter anymore.I'll preface by saying I'm not one to get excited by prospects, either here or in American sports, but as I understand it, prior to the rumors this weekend, no one really rated him much beyond "has a chance to be a good player". Someone compared him to Sancho and was laughed at because they aren't apparently aren't even close to the same level of talent. But now that he's going to leave it's a huge indictment of the academy, proof that the club has no idea what it's doing, Pep has to take the blame, etc. What am I missing here?
If he doesn't want to stay, thats fine. Just this week we're rumored to be signing Ilaix Moriba, another 15 year old La Masia kid. We bring talented kids in, develop them, and if you're an absolute top drawer talent you'll get a shot with the first team when the time comes. Given that Pep didn't even have him training with the squad he clearly doesn't rate him on that level and as result he's moving on. It's a conveyor belt. No big deal either way.
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And the talent that looked likely to be able to step up would be Sancho & Diaz so we're not losing ALL the talent really are we. Matondo & Poveda are still here so you can't use them as an example (presuming they would be "able to step up") so stop being a drama queen.If we lose Matondo and Poveda (rumours of BOTH leaving), then I will mentally check out on anything related to the academy.
I have already lowered my expectations drastically, I knew we would bleed talent (and we have), but to lose literally ALL the talent that has a chance to step up is ridiculous, for which the club AND Pep should take blame.
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