Ederson - 2018/2019 performances

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Think he should've saved the first goal actually, it didn't feel like an impossible shot to save.
 
In real time it really didn't but replays showed it was not easy too. Maybe if he was bit better positioned but positioned as he was it was too close to react much better.

Don't think he's great in pure goalkeeping though. If he wasn't such a brilliant fit for our type of a game, great with his feet and stuff, he'd be pretty average keeper.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
No. Great at everything bar this. They are not necessarily errors but we rarely have a “wow how did he save that” moment with him.
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I do not recall him making a match winning save, but my memory isn't the best. I can recall the instances where he has set us on the way to several goals. Oh yeah, the double save against MANUre last season!
 
B\connellblue said:
Surely he should have saved the penalty, it went under his body. First goal he got his positioning all wrong,started to come then hesitated and got left in no mans land. Peps successor may want different attributes from his goalkeeper
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Could've saved it, decent power in it but poor placement.
 
He's a very good keeper, not world class in my eyes but he's not in the team JUST to keep goals, he's there to be an 11th outfield player to suit our style of play who can use his hands pretty well. The dipper lad is a better pure keeper but as a whole Eddie is much better to our game plan.
 
This will be one of my few posts today, as I need to stay away from the inevitable inquest that happens on here after this sort of loss, but I think it is worth a reminder he has made some very good saves/blocks for us — see the videos below (and these don’t even show the crucial Salah save at home this year or a few others in the last month or so).

I think we have a tendency to forget his great saves because they are fewer and further between than De Gea’s or Alisson’s due to us conceding fewer shots on average in all comps (City: 6.7 shots conceded per game; United: 13.2 scpg; Liverpool: 8.4 scpg — only Liverpool have conceded fewer goals than us, and they’ve conceded the same number from open play, with City having conceded 6 more from set pieces and penalties). Eddie’s save percentage in the league (63.9%) is lower than De Gea’s (70.6%) and Alisson’s (78.3%), which I know some will point out about the scpg stats above, but much of the differential can be explained by the variation in the quality of chances conceded.

Our system (high line, playing out of the back, fullbacks tucking in to midfield, which are different to Liverpool) and “standard” opposition tactics (park the bus, counter, press high) mean the chances we do concede are often higher quality (i.e. closer to goal, often from a head on, errant pass setting an opposition player up just outside our box, set piece, or penalty — we’ve conceded five penalty goals and it is worth noting neither Eddie nor De Gea has saved any of the penalties their teams have conceded), meaning it is frequently more difficult for Ederson to pull off a wonder save. And they rarely go straight at him, a la nearly every shot Spurs put at De Gea recently, which made him look like a minor sporting deity (and padded his save percentage), even though it was really the equivalent of a keeper warm-up drill.

I personally think he is a much better shotstopper than some are giving him credit. And he is absolutely currently the best keeper in the world with the ball at his feet. Those two things together make him one of the few players in the world that can do what our systems asks of a keeper. That at least partially contributes to our having scored 9 more goals than Liverpool and 15 more than United and certainly our superior goal differential to both (three times United’s GD!).

Put De Gea or Alisson in goal for us and we would likely concede as many goals has we have thus far (if not more due to the disruption in our system leading to more high quality chances being created, since neither are as good as Eddie with the ball at their feet) and score fewer (see disruption).





 
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SebastianBlue said:
This will be one of my few posts today, as I need to stay away from the inevitable inquest that happens on here after this sort of loss, but I think it is worth a reminder he has made some very good saves/blocks for us — see the videos below (and these don’t even show the crucial Salah save at home this year or a few others in the last month or so).

I think we have a tendency to forget his great saves because they are fewer and further between than De Gea’s or Alisson’s due to us conceding fewer shots on average in all comps (City: 6.7 shots conceded per game; United: 13.2 scpg; Liverpool: 8.4 scpg — only Liverpool have conceded fewer goals than us, and they’ve conceded the same number from open play, with City having conceded 6 more from set pieces and penalties). Eddie’s save percentage in the league (63.9%) is lower than De Gea’s (70.6%) and Alisson’s (78.3%), which I know some will point out about the scpg stats above, but much of the differential can be explained by the variation in the quality of chances conceded.

Our system (high line, playing out of the back, fullbacks tucking in to midfield, which are different to Liverpool) and “standard” opposition tactics (park the bus, counter, press high) mean the chances we do concede are often higher quality (i.e. closer to goal, often from a head on, errant pass setting an opposition player up just outside our box, set piece, or penalty — we’ve conceded five penalty goals and it is worth noting neither Eddie nor De Gea has saved any of the penalties their teams have conceded), meaning it is frequently more difficult for Ederson to pull off a wonder save. And they rarely go straight at him, a la nearly every shot Spurs put at De Gea recently, which made him look like a minor sporting deity (and padded his save percentage), even though it was really the equivalent of a keeper warm-up drill.

I personally think he is a much better shotstopper than some are giving him credit. And he is absolutely currently the best keeper in the world with the ball at his feet. Those two things together make him one of the few players in the world that can do what our systems asks of a keeper. That at least partially contributes to our having scored 9 more goals than Liverpool and 15 more than United and certainly our superior goal differential to both (three times United’s GD!).

Put De Gea or Alisson in goal for us and we would likely concede as many goals has we have thus far (if not more due to the disruption in our system leading to more high quality chances being created, since neither are as good as Eddie with the ball at their feet) and score fewer (see disruption).





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Love the effort there, I've just made my post-loss return too. I still remember that save he made at Napoli last season and the one at Lyon at home. Genuinely world class stuff.
I'm getting Hart 12/13 vibes right now. It just feels like every goal we concede was almost unstoppable, to the point only a truly phenomenal shotstopper can deal with them. Hopefully unlike Hart his confidence doesn't disintegrate; I doubt it will.

I think it's also worth pointing out how young and inexperienced he still is for a keeper. He's got a lot of time and a lot of room to improve, which is an amazing prospect.




ps. The bolded part btw is so prevalent on this forum for literally everything. Although I would like to point out that it's not all the posters obviously and I'd have it as more of an internet thing than a Bluemoon thing.
 
B\connellblue said:
Surely he should have saved the penalty, it went under his body. First goal he got his positioning all wrong,started to come then hesitated and got left in no mans land. Peps successor may want different attributes from his goalkeeper
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I'm not surprised it went under him at the speed it was travelling. Think you are being harsh to imply "surely he should save it"
 
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