Ederson - 2018/2019 performances

[jaiguruKun]

I was laughing and cheering as much as anyone else at the ground when he did it but I’m gonna play devils advocate now

To me he’s just not focusing enough on his game when we’re seemingly in control. Against soton and rags he gave away needless penalties for balls he didn’t need to come for and today his error could’ve led to a goal. Stay in your area son and do the simple things.

No issue at all with him coming out of his area as long as he gets to the ball first which he generally always does.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Even in the 90s he was a mad arse.

Why does the title of that clip say that Eddie is 'mocking'? He's doing nothing of the sort. He's passing the ball. I wonder if our passes are now classed as 'mockery'?

 

[Bozo]

Baller

 

[quiet_riot]

Why does the title of that clip say that Eddie is 'mocking'? He's doing nothing of the sort. He's passing the ball. I wonder if our passes are now classed as 'mockery'?

It's the new stick to beat us with. When we win, we're disrespectful, and when we lose, we've bottled it.

 

[sheepskin_tearaway]

Crazy motherfucker but you just have to love him, he’s just a nutjob but in the best sense of the word. Absolutely perfect keeper for us and our style of play.

Exactly. Pundits completely miss the point when comparing ederson, Allison and de gea. Firstly, Allison is nowhere near as good with his feet as Ederson and it boils my piss when pundits talk about it as if he is Ederson’s equal. Secondly, De Gea is probably a better ‘pure’ keeper than Ederson. But he’d be useless in our team with our style of play.

 

[aguero93:20]

I'm a bit pissed off that he just gave it back to Dinho instead of moving into a better position and looking for a 1-2 to get further up the pitch behind the wolves midfield.

 

[mat]

Come on Pep.

Play him with Dinho's for a game. Give him a go at any Free kicks and penalties too.


:)

The lad is Uber confident, let's use it to best advantage.

 

[cleavers]

To me he’s just not focusing enough on his game when we’re seemingly in control. Against soton and rags he gave away needless penalties for balls he didn’t need to come for and today his error could’ve led to a goal. Stay in your area son and do the simple things.

He did stay in his area on those occasions, that's why they were penalties.

 

[ctid1894]

Exactly. Pundits completely miss the point when comparing ederson, Allison and de gea. Firstly, Allison is nowhere near as good with his feet as Ederson and it boils my piss when pundits talk about it as if he is Ederson’s equal. Secondly, De Gea is probably a better ‘pure’ keeper than Ederson. But he’d be useless in our team with our style of play.

I don’t think they understand not just how many goals he prevents but also how many goals he helps us score by playing as a ‘sweeper/keeper’. Ederson is the reason we can and do play such a high line, which allows us to press as high as we do which creates so many of our goals.

You’ll always have some idiot who wants to say “he’ll cost us a goal”, yes he probably will at some stage and has cost us a couple of penalties recently but the benefits far outstrip the negatives both attacking and defensively. Too many people are scared of breaking tradition when it comes to keepers, too scared to take a risk but Ederson has proven it works but not many will be as brave or as good as Ederson is.

I wouldn’t swap him for anyone, in fact I’d go as far as saying all the 19 other Premier League keepers rolled into 1 couldn’t do what Ederson does for us.

 

[Gray]

Love the lad, he is an entertainer.

 

[aguero93:20]

He did stay in his area on those occasions, that's why they were penalties.

Should be self evident really :)

 

[Thomas Hearns]

He did stay in his area on those occasions, that's why they were penalties.

Good point !

 

[DTeacher]

Forgot that our Ederson set this WORLD RECORD last season.....

Would not swap him for anyone.

http://www.espn.co.uk/soccer/blog/t...r-citys-ederson-breaks-long-kick-world-record

 

[Henkeman]

I'm a bit pissed off that he just gave it back to Dinho instead of moving into a better position and looking for a 1-2 to get further up the pitch behind the wolves midfield.

It was tiki taka. And Guardiola hates tiki taka. Ederson out.

 

[aguero93:20]

It was tiki taka. And Guardiola hates tiki taka. Ederson out.

Yep, no purpose behind the passing bar passing.

 

[Metalartin]

I'm still amazed that half a season in, with direct comparisons to be made, there's still some saying Alisson is better even with his feet because... "he's Brazil's number 1". This was mainly opinion driven from the Serie A fans, the media and of course those "cheeky" Liverpool fans, as they courted him during last season and it's stuck since.

I feel the whole national team situation is a little unfair on Ederson, in that too much is being made of it. Alisson is almost a year older for a start but I'd read the main reason for Alisson getting the nod first was because they chose different paths in their development. Brazil tend to favour those playing in Brazil, much as Spain will do and many other countries.

So I looked into it properly and here is a very brief summary of their career paths:

Ederson's path
Club: Benfica U17, Benfica U19, GD Ribeirão, Rio Ave FC, back to Benfica(2015), City(2017).
Nation Team Setup: Brazil U23
Full National Team Debut: October 2017 (Manchester City player)

Moved Portugal in his development. Has never really had a look in, other than securing the No2 spot, because they simply had to take notice.

Alisson's path
Club: Sport Club Internacional U20, S C Internacional B, S C Internacional, Roma(2016), Liverpool(2018)
Nation Team Setup: Brazil U17, Brazil U21
Full National Team Debut: October 2015 (S C Internacional player)

Stayed in Brazil in his development, got his first call up while still playing in Brazil. Has a good working relationship with the Brazil national team GK coach Taffarel, which started from is first call up and continued in his tricky first season at Roma.

Personally, I haven't seen anything to suggest Alisson is a better shot stopper, like we were led to believe. He's good but then, so is Ederson. There's probably nothing in it on the shot stopping but I suppose he'd have to be having a pretty poor season before some are willing take it back. He has improved them and proved to be their best option available. He is in no way better on the ball or has better distribution than Ederson though, there's nobody quite like Ederson around and I'm glad we've got him.

Maybe it's a blessing for us, that he wasn't Brazil's number 1 from the off because he might not have been available to us when we came looking otherwise.

 

[Rolee]

I'm still amazed that half a season in, with direct comparisons to be made, there's still some saying Alisson is better even with his feet because... "he's Brazil's number 1". This was mainly opinion driven from the Serie A fans, the media and of course those "cheeky" Liverpool fans, as they courted him during last season and it's stuck since.

I feel the whole national team situation is a little unfair on Ederson, in that too much is being made of it. Alisson is almost a year older for a start but I'd read the main reason for Alisson getting the nod first was because they chose different paths in their development. Brazil tend to favour those playing in Brazil, much as Spain will do and many other countries.

So I looked into it properly and here is a very brief summary of their career paths:

Ederson's path
Club: Benfica U17, Benfica U19, GD Ribeirão, Rio Ave FC, back to Benfica(2015), City(2017).
Nation Team Setup: Brazil U23
Full National Team Debut: October 2017 (Manchester City player)

Moved Portugal in his development. Has never really had a look in, other than securing the No2 spot, because they simply had to take notice.

Alisson's path
Club: Sport Club Internacional U20, S C Internacional B, S C Internacional, Roma(2016), Liverpool(2018)
Nation Team Setup: Brazil U17, Brazil U21
Full National Team Debut: October 2015 (S C Internacional player)

Stayed in Brazil in his development, got his first call up while still playing in Brazil. He has a good working relationship with the Brazil national team GK coach Taffarel, which started from is first call up and continued in his tricky first season at Roma.

Personally, I haven't seen anything to suggest Alisson is a better shot stopper, like we were led to believe. He's good but then, so is Ederson. There's probably nothing in it on the shot stopping but I suppose he'd have to be having a pretty poor season before some are willing take it back. He has improved them and proved to be their best option available. He is in no way better on the ball or has better distribution than Ederson though, there's nobody quite like Ederson around and I'm glad we've got him.

Maybe it's a blessing for us, that he wasn't Brazil's number 1 from the off because he might not have been available to us, when we were looking to replace Bravo.

Both were called up to the provisional Brazil squad for Copa America in 2016, Ederson had to withdraw due to injury, Allison played, the rest is history.

As an aside, Bravo won the award for best keeper at that tournament.

 

[Henkeman]

I'm still amazed that half a season in, with direct comparisons to be made, there's still some saying Alisson is better even with his feet because... "he's Brazil's number 1". This was mainly opinion driven from the Serie A fans, the media and of course those "cheeky" Liverpool fans, as they courted him during last season and it's stuck since.

I feel the whole national team situation is a little unfair on Ederson, in that too much is being made of it. Alisson is almost a year older for a start but I'd read the main reason for Alisson getting the nod first was because they chose different paths in their development. Brazil tend to favour those playing in Brazil, much as Spain will do and many other countries.

So I looked into it properly and here is a very brief summary of their career paths:

Ederson's path
Club: Benfica U17, Benfica U19, GD Ribeirão, Rio Ave FC, back to Benfica(2015), City(2017).
Nation Team Setup: Brazil U23
Full National Team Debut: October 2017 (Manchester City player)

Moved Portugal in his development. Has never really had a look in, other than securing the No2 spot, because they simply had to take notice.

Alisson's path
Club: Sport Club Internacional U20, S C Internacional B, S C Internacional, Roma(2016), Liverpool(2018)
Nation Team Setup: Brazil U17, Brazil U21
Full National Team Debut: October 2015 (S C Internacional player)

Stayed in Brazil in his development, got his first call up while still playing in Brazil. He has a good working relationship with the Brazil national team GK coach Taffarel, which started from is first call up and continued in his tricky first season at Roma.

Personally, I haven't seen anything to suggest Alisson is a better shot stopper, like we were led to believe. He's good but then, so is Ederson. There's probably nothing in it on the shot stopping but I suppose he'd have to be having a pretty poor season before some are willing take it back. He has improved them and proved to be their best option available. He is in no way better on the ball or has better distribution than Ederson though, there's nobody quite like Ederson around and I'm glad we've got him.

Maybe it's a blessing for us, that he wasn't Brazil's number 1 from the off because he might not have been available to us when we came looking otherwise.

Liverpool fans back their own player. Fair enough.

 

[Metalartin]

Both were called up to the provisional Brazil squad for Copa America in 2016, Ederson had to withdraw due to injury, Allison played, the rest is history.

As an aside, Bravo won the award for best keeper at that tournament.

Wasn't aware of that but Alisson's debut was definitely in 2015. A 3-1 win vs Venezuela in a WC qualifier.

 

[Metalartin]

Liverpool fans back their own player. Fair enough.

It's just Liverpool fans, not the media at large, who have fed it into the mainstream fans thinking?

Also just backing? Not doing our own keeper down?

Bit of a weird take on it from a City fan but fair enough.