Thought both pens were justifiable, great spirit in the second half
Then you thought wrong.
For the second pen Fern slightly touches the attacker's arse (ooo er) and waist, I've seen defenders throttling attackers by the neck in similar situations and nothing given.
For the first you could argue for it but he is getting his arm out of the way and the ref did not give it, so really it was not a clear obvious error and yet he still gives even though he isn't able to watch the replay.
Get real mate.
 
I thought it was a penalty but it shouldn’t have been given (due to the screen not working for VAR).

For me, there was enough distance between the ball and the player and he takes a bit too long before realising and retracting his arm. I think he’ll feel hard done by though, although if I was the attacker or had it happened for us, I’d have been shouting for it.

I’d love to kick a ball at you from 6 yards and see your deliberate action in the half a second it took to hit you..... plainly obvious lots of people on here have never played or understand the game!!
 
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Ok. I think the 1st penalty wasn't exactly clear cut either way. For one, his arm's all the way out there, and he moved his arm and it hit the ball. That's more than enough ammunition and plenty of refs have given decisions for things as trivial as that. However, he's also clearly trying to get it out of the way and he doesn't exactly have much time to react.
Tbh, I'd have been pissed off had we not been given a penalty for that; a shot's been blocked by a defender's arm. But at the same time, it wasn't deliberate, which according to the rules means no penalty.

What upset me really was the VAR overturning it. The fact that the ref had to go with upstairs because the TV was broken was poor on his part. But really the fact the call was so subjective should have meant that it wasn't overturned. If he'd given that straight away I could've much more easily lived with it.

The 2nd was just soft. There was no offside; the 'foul' was the first infringement ahead of any offside interferences (the foul was more of an off the ball incident). But it was really soft, but unfortunately there was enough there that technically it could be given. I'm glad VAR didn't overrule it, even if it went against us, just for the sake of VAR moving forwards.

The red card was kinda fair. The 2nd booking was totally ok but the 1st was again soft.


The ref kept seeming to straddle between being a real strict jobsworth and being super lenient, with no rhyme or reason. I guess it wouldn't surprise some of you to hear this is his first season in the Champions League proper as a referee.
 
I absolutely love the fact that some are still arguing (debating) about the decision's tonight, YET WE STILL WON THE FECKIN' GAME! This is how far we've come lads!!!
 
If you recorded the pundits every instant like this, especially ex refs, you would be able to.playback the same bloke, giving the exact opposite reasons for a decision being right or wrong, 100 times in a season.

They are shite & they are biased. And they have just been given the tools to run the whole show.
Yeah, Higginbotham pulled Gallagher on SSN on it a few times this season. Rules change from game to game apparently never mind week to week.
 
Maybe, difference being we wouldn't have got it, nor the minimal challenge by Fern for the second 'penalty', nor the minimal/non challenge by Ota for the sending off.
Get real and smell the coffee.

Never mind the foul he gave against silva for the second goal. Hardly been mentioned but that’s the worst of the lot for me. Shocking decision
 
You’re not offside unless you touch the ball or directly affect the opposing player from getting the ball how he intends by interfering with that player. By the laws he wasn’t offside

If he hadn't been offside, there would be no need to foul him.

He gained an advantage by being offside.
 
What scary moments? Even at 1-2 tonight we looked in control of the tie.
We were by far the better team and down to ten and losing in the dying minutes. Scary to me. Could have been one of those nights when we're well on top but lose - thankfully two moments of brilliance got us what we deserved.
 
Is it the rule that if the ball hits an arm with the shot goalbound it's a pen? In other words, is there a different ruling than for when it hits an arm in the box from a cross. Ie. the pundits favourite - the arm in an unnatural position or not by the players side. If there are two differentiating rules, then yes it's a pen, if not then clearly no pen.
 
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You’re not offside unless you touch the ball or directly affect the opposing player from getting the ball how he intends by interfering with that player. By the laws he wasn’t offside

He blocked Fernandinho from getting to the ball from an offside position , then Dinho resorted to holding him ,the Schalke player was therefrore interfering with play
 
I guess it wouldn't surprise some of you to hear this is his first season in the Champions League proper as a referee.
It would have surprised me, if I hadn't seen him 'refereeing' in it tonight, with my own eyes.
 
If you recorded the pundits every instant like this, especially ex refs, you would be able to.playback the same bloke, giving the exact opposite reasons for a decision being right or wrong, 100 times in a season.

They are shite & they are biased. And they have just been given the tools to run the whole show.
Think your spot on. I think we could bring up this conversation again on Saturday/Sunday on why it WASN'T a handball given it was the exact same as Nico's "DELIBERATE" hand ball.
 
We were by far the better team and down to ten and losing in the dying minutes. Scary to me. Could have been one of those nights when we're well on top but lose - thankfully two moments of brilliance got us what we deserved.
2 legged tie though and we had an away goal, even before Sané scored I thought we'd maul them in the second leg.
 

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