Bloody Sunday: Soldier F faces murder charges

mancity2012_eamo said:
Agree.
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I understand why the Republican movement came to the fore. Hitherto, the way Catholics were treated in NI was disgraceful, but that was 50 years ago. Not a massive royalist, but people should take a leaf out of the Queeen’s book on this.

People need to look forward. I love the Irish and just want to see them get along.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I understand why the Republican movement came to the fore. Hitherto, the way Catholics were treated in NI was disgraceful, but that was 50 years ago. Not a massive royalist, but people should take a leaf out of the Queeen’s book on this.

People need to look forward. I love the Irish and just want to see them get along.
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It’ll take three generations of normality. That’s why the GFA was so important to the Brexit thread.
 
If it was my son/brother/husband/whatever murdered I'd be happy to move on. As long as the perpatrator, if available, can be brought to justice.
The knowing that they could be going unpunished would only fester more after so many years
 
mackenzie said:
If it was my son/brother/husband/whatever murdered I'd be happy to move on. As long as the perpatrator, if available, can be brought to justice.
The knowing that they could be going unpunished would only fester more after so many years
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But what if he’s acquitted? That’s a very real possibility. That would be even worse for the families, I reckon.
 
I thought part of the terms of the GFA was not to prosecute anyone for anything that had happened prior to it being signed, effectively drawing a line under all pre-GFA offences associated with the Troubles? Or does that only apply to the terrorist groups and not extend to the army, etc? Given that the IRA rearranged our city centre less than 2 years before the GFA was signed with the biggest peacetime bomb ever detonated on the British mainland and there has been enough talk that it’s known exactly who did it but they won’t ever be prosecuted, there does appear to be some double standards at play here.
 
It wasnt about not prosecuting....it was about releasing those who had been caught and prosecuted/imprisoned......they were let out in licence
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
But what if he’s acquitted? That’s a very real possibility. That would be even worse for the families, I reckon.
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The families said today at their press event that they won’t move on regardless of the outcome of the murder trial. They made it clear that they will continue to pursue every possible prosecution / civil action etc.
 
M18CTID said:
I thought part of the terms of the GFA was not to prosecute anyone for anything that had happened prior to it being signed, effectively drawing a line under all pre-GFA offences associated with the Troubles? Or does that only apply to the terrorist groups and not extend to the army, etc? Given that the IRA rearranged our city centre less than 2 years before the GFA was signed with the biggest peacetime bomb ever detonated on the British mainland and there has been enough talk that it’s known exactly who did it but they won’t ever be prosecuted, there does appear to be some double standards at play here.
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Totally agree. We’ve all got some good reason to be angry at the ‘other side’, even if only second hand. The Troubles touched so many lives, especially in terms of the nation's consciousness. Always used to seriously shit myself as a kid going into Manchester city centre with my mum in case an IRA bomb went off. Not trying to compare that to losing a child, but everyone was affected - and there was fault on all sides. In those circumstances, I feel people have to put their grief to one side, if they can.

Otherwise, it festers and turns toxic.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
It wasnt about not prosecuting....it was about releasing those who had been caught and prosecuted/imprisoned......they were let out in licence
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I get that bit about those who were already in prison but I’m talking about all the incidents pre-GFA that had never led to any arrests and prosecution. Unless I’m very much mistaken, I can’t think of any of those being pursued since the GFA was signed.
 
Yes the threat of a bomb going off was awful....and terrible that one went off in manchester.....but over the course of the troubles there were over 10,000 bombs.

10,000

We would regularly hear them going off as we ate our dinner.

My dad had one of these at the front door....

I think the thoughts and feelings of those who actually lived it come first
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M18CTID said:
I get that bit about those who were already in prison but I’m talking about all the incidents pre-GFA that had never led to any arrests and prosecution. Unless I’m very much mistaken, I can’t think of any of those being pursued since the GFA was signed.
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Genuinely dont know.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Yes the threat of a bomb going off was awful....and terrible that one went off in manchester.....but over the course of the troubles there were over 10,000 bombs.

10,000

We would regularly hear them going off as we ate our dinner.

My dad had one of these at the front door....

I think the thoughts and feelings of those who actually lived it come first
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Plenty of folk in NI don’t want him prosecuted. Or have they not ‘lived it’?
 
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