Well as I don't know them I can't say but I have been on holiday many times at camp sites and the like on the continent where many people have done exactly the same thing .theres only one way, lovingly and them two cunts have no idea..
I'm not really familiar with them other than the Gaspar statement but leaving your kids alone every night on holiday makes anyone a poor parent in my books
It’s very difficult to warm to either of them.They act so weird
Who was the guy who last checked Maddy before Kate knew she was missing? I’m not the person to throw round baseless accusations but I think it’s a very realistic possibility that he may be part of a worldwide paedophile ring.
I read that earlier today actually. Tbh there didn't seem to be much too itIf you think the Gaspar statement is unusual, then have a read of Yvonne Martin's statement.
She was a UK child protection officer (on holiday nearby at the time), and went to see if she could aid the McCanns after she heard the headlines on the TV the morning after she disappeared. She got there about 10am that morning, and spoke to Kate.
Other than saying that Kate was questioning 'why would a couple steal her child' and that they were checking on the kids every hour (not every half hour as per their later statements) the interesting stuff is what she mentions about another of the McCanns group. She didn't know who he was, but was convinced she met him previously, and as time went on believed it was through her line of work as either a witness or as a suspect.
The person turned out to be David Payne, and she was that concerned about him she wrote anonymously to UK Police, basically with a view to get them to check if he was known to them or on any sex offender registers.
This later led (along with the Gaspar statement) to numerous conspiracy theories that the McCanns & Co were themselves part of a pedo ring.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm
Also seem to remember though, after her name became known some of the British press did a few hit-pieces on her, so unsure of how reliable you could consider her statement & opinion to be.
I don't think it would be unreasonable to take what the tapas group said with a pinch of saltThat was Matthew Oldfield.
I held a long felt suspicion that that 9.30pm visit didn't take place or if it did, he didn't enter the McCanns apartment and only listened at the windows (as per what he said they sometimes did during their visits in his first statement).
The problem with that theory is that it sends you down the rabbit hole that only Gerry & Kate checked on their kids (at 9pm & 10pm), and if they entered the apartment using a key by the front door (as per their original statements), there's no need for the patio to be unlocked, so how did an abductor get in without sign of forced entry, or Madeline got out by her own violation.
I don't think it would be unreasonable to take what the tapas group said with a pinch of salt
That all makes sense to me.So what would your reasoning be for them to lie or for you not to believe their version of events?
For me a simple reason would likely be an attempt at damage limitation to their reputations for negligence, and by shoehorning in an extra visit(s) to reduce the visit times down from an hour to 30 or 15 mins this threw all their timelines into doubt. Once they all got caught in the lie or couldn't later replicate a coherent timeline it was too late for them to reverse direction.
Simply put I don't have great belief in their supposed visits every 20 minutes on the children.So what would your reasoning be for them to lie or for you not to believe their version of events?
For me a simple reason would likely be an attempt at damage limitation to their reputations for negligence, and by shoehorning in an extra visit(s) to reduce the visit times down from an hour to 30 or 15 mins this threw all their timelines into doubt. Once they all got caught in the lie or couldn't later replicate a coherent timeline it was too late for them to reverse direction.
That all makes sense to me.
Surely not, that biased and one sided documentary? ;)Simply put I don't have great belief in their supposed visits every 20 minutes on the children.
Would've been like musical chairs as the Netflix docu points out
Surely not, that biased and one sided documentary? ;)
They definitely lied/changed their story. I’ve stated all along that I think this was an exercise in damage limitation for 3 reasons:
1) Their reputations in relation to their professions
2) The fear of losing the twins because of their negligence
3) They knew the Find Maddie Fund would be reliant on the good will of people to donate
Yeah the first 24/48 hours they were feeding 1 & 2 but things said later about the Maddie Fund fit into number 3. I’m sure you’ve followed the thread today? There were points raised about lies surrounding its administration.Agree with 1 and 2, but regarding 3 the lies & story changes had started within the first 24-48 hours and the Fund was well on the horizon 2 weeks away at that point, which by that time they'd already dug themselves too big a hole anyway.
Yeah the first 24/48 hours they were feeding 1 & 2 but things said later about the Maddie Fund fit into number 3. I’m sure you’ve followed the thread today? There were points raised about lies surrounding its administration.
It’s ‘moot’ point ;)Eh? The damage had already been done well before the the fund was set-up, so the point is mute, because they still wouldn't be able to roll back any lies without loss of reputation etc. Other than that the only explanation is they continued the lies purely to keep the money coming in.
With regard to the fund,as per my previously posted link it was Brian Kennedy (their relative, not the ex-Sale sharks one) who was instrumental in setting up the original 'fighting fund' for mainly potential legal costs. The 'fighting fund' then morphed into the Find Madeline fund.
I'm no expert on charities etc, but have seen a reasoning that with running a charity the accounts have to be more transparent, open to public scrutiny and require more detailed accounts of expenditure etc than the Ltd Co route, and this is one of the reasons the McCanns chose the Ltd Co. Never bothered to verify it myself so don't know how true it is.