UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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He is a massive bellend

Arsenal fan
I heard him on Talksport a while ago he was frothing at the mouth about City, he absolutely loathes us. I think he pissed Cundy off who was like a dog with a bone making him back up his claims and he couldn't. Scott just came across a bitter fool who had no real knowledge.
 
You need to get a dictionary and look up the word genuine.

Anyone should be allowed to post genuine posts on any forum but your 69 posts on red cafe have confused me somewhat. I couldn’t be arsed to go through them all so I’ve picked out three

4/4/19. (About City). “Leeds,Newcastle, Everton have much bigger following and are therefore bigger clubs for me.”

28/4/19. “Fecking embarrassing all the City love in here”

23/4/19. “Nah I’m a neutral with a slight leaning towards Liverpool if I’m honest. Mostly because feck City and their bottomless pit of cash ruining the PL.”

The last post is the one that really confused me when it’s put alongside your 1st post yesterday.

You slimey little fucking turd.
Well played mate.
Shame on you the blues who were telling us all that this was an opportunity to “educate other fans who swallow the media lies”
It was fucking obvious he wasn’t a Newport/Leeds fan and he was only here for mischief. The truth is no fans of other clubs want to understand from a City perspective, they’ve already made their minds up and that won’t be changing anytime soon.
As if he’d just popped up with a burning desire to get the City angle!
 
Well played mate.
Shame on you the blues who were telling us all that this was an opportunity to “educate other fans who swallow the media lies”
It was fucking obvious he wasn’t a Newport/Leeds fan and he was only here for mischief. The truth is no fans of other clubs want to understand from a City perspective, they’ve already made their minds up and that won’t be changing anytime soon.
As if he’d just popped up with a burning desire to get the City angle!
A cnut will always be a cnut.
 
Well played mate.
Shame on you the blues who were telling us all that this was an opportunity to “educate other fans who swallow the media lies”
It was fucking obvious he wasn’t a Newport/Leeds fan and he was only here for mischief. The truth is no fans of other clubs want to understand from a City perspective, they’ve already made their minds up and that won’t be changing anytime soon.
As if he’d just popped up with a burning desire to get the City angle!

Yep, obvious. So many gullible posters on here laughably trying to be nice to the tool.
 
Well played mate.
Shame on you the blues who were telling us all that this was an opportunity to “educate other fans who swallow the media lies”
It was fucking obvious he wasn’t a Newport/Leeds fan and he was only here for mischief. The truth is no fans of other clubs want to understand from a City perspective, they’ve already made their minds up and that won’t be changing anytime soon.
As if he’d just popped up with a burning desire to get the City angle!
It was obvious from his first post that this wasn’t an interested fan just looking for some insight.
My reply to him was deleted whilst he was ‘welcomed’ and asked to stick around.
Fucker was on the wind up from the start, I’ve seen enough of them on here to know who’s genuine and who’s a gobby wum.
 
Well played mate.
Shame on you the blues who were telling us all that this was an opportunity to “educate other fans who swallow the media lies”
It was fucking obvious he wasn’t a Newport/Leeds fan and he was only here for mischief. The truth is no fans of other clubs want to understand from a City perspective, they’ve already made their minds up and that won’t be changing anytime soon.
As if he’d just popped up with a burning desire to get the City angle!

I think you just have to take people at face value before judging them. He didn't help himself with his opening gambit but seemed genuine enough after that. Plenty of people will swallow whatever they read in the media and not just about City and FFP either.

Great detective work though!
 
They’ve already been through what we’re facing and appealed to CAS who ruled in their favour. I’m sure @Parisian will put you straight, he’s posted about it in detail several times over the last few days on this thread.
I’ve already thanked Parisian for his informative post.

I think the general consensus on here is we are getting more vindictive shit thrown at us than PSG, not just in Europe but domestically as well. The Rags and the Dipper media are feeding the non City fans a perception that we are cheats and money dopers amongst other accusations. Internal pressures from the likes of Gill and Parry at UEFA are having the desired effect, fuelling ridiculously invidious reporting.

I’ve just read about PSG Chairman Nasser Al-Khelaifi, he is to join the UEFA Executive Committee despite him being involved in suspected bribery regarding Beins bids for the 2026 and 2030 World Cup TV rights. It’s alleged he provided a luxury Italian villa for a FIFA Official.

Him, Agnelli from Juventus, Gill, Parry, the bent twats from Bayern, Barca and Real Madrid, etc, Uefa is rotten to its fucking core.
 
It was obvious from his first post that this wasn’t an interested fan just looking for some insight.
My reply to him was deleted whilst he was ‘welcomed’ and asked to stick around.
Fucker was on the wind up from the start, I’ve seen enough of them on here to know who’s genuine and who’s a gobby wum.
It was soooo fucking obvious.
 
I’ve already thanked Parisian for his informative post.

I think the general consensus on here is we are getting more vindictive shit thrown at us than PSG, not just in Europe but domestically as well. The Rags and the Dipper media are feeding the non City fans a perception that we are cheats and money dopers amongst other accusations. Internal pressures from the likes of Gill and Parry at UEFA are having the desired effect, fuelling ridiculously invidious reporting.

I’ve just read about PSG Chairman Nasser Al-Khelaifi, he is to join the UEFA Executive Committee despite him being involved in suspected bribery regarding Beins bids for the 2026 and 2030 World Cup TV rights. It’s alleged he provided a luxury Italian villa for a FIFA Official.

Him, Agnelli from Juventus, Gill, Parry, the bent twats from Bayern, Barca and Real Madrid, etc, Uefa is rotten to its fucking core.
So you’re still accusing PSG/owners for wrongdoing.
 
I've said this before but it's worth saying it again. The hugely frustrating part of all this is that to a large extent it's self-inflicted. A club of our size, knowing we have lots of enemies in football, should have had state level security in place. That means a fully secure server and high level encryption of emails. We had neither so an individual accessed everything with absolute ease and that really is unforgivable.

Not the first time either. The scouts who defected to Liverpool a few years ago, accessed our servers and stole information allegedly.
 
It was obvious from his first post that this wasn’t an interested fan just looking for some insight.
My reply to him was deleted whilst he was ‘welcomed’ and asked to stick around.
Fucker was on the wind up from the start, I’ve seen enough of them on here to know who’s genuine and who’s a gobby wum.
Probably already been told the same thing but just don't reply, report it and let the Mods deal with them. Not worth getting into a lather over some no-mark on a forum bud.
 
You need to get a dictionary and look up the word genuine.

Anyone should be allowed to post genuine posts on any forum but your 69 posts on red cafe have confused me somewhat. I couldn’t be arsed to go through them all so I’ve picked out three

4/4/19. (About City). “Leeds,Newcastle, Everton have much bigger following and are therefore bigger clubs for me.”

28/4/19. “Fecking embarrassing all the City love in here”

23/4/19. “Nah I’m a neutral with a slight leaning towards Liverpool if I’m honest. Mostly because feck City and their bottomless pit of cash ruining the PL.”

The last post is the one that really confused me when it’s put alongside your 1st post yesterday.

You slimey little fucking turd.

So fucking dumb he didn't even change his user name forum-to-forum.

Sid, your detective work is strong -- perhaps you could ring up the Merseyside Police department and help them out as they've been stumped for a year over who bricked City's coach.

Failing that, you could go freelance, work for the dippers and tackle the complex and confounding case of who threw a flare at a 9-year-old disabled Chelsea fan. A month into the investigation and somehow they remain mystified.
 
I'm perhaps looking at this from a procedural angle rather than a technical one, but appreciate your input as I hadn't followed this UEFA investigation into PSG and was just commenting on the link. What I don't understand is if UEFA had deemed their initial investigation into PSG's sponsorship deals as appropriate, why did they then try to re-open it? What was UEFA's reasoning?
The 100 M€ valuation was clearly a "your sponsorship is to big, let's cut it in half and settle for 100 M and everyone is happy".
Then at the demands of Tebas and the cartel, and immediately after Neymar/Mbappé transfers, UEFA had to do something to calm their historical members. They used several external audit companies and put the "fair market value".

The third attempt though is already dodgier. It is the portuguese european judge (that i described as an hardliner earlier) who decided there was a manifest error made by the investigation team and asked them to restart a deeper investigation and put a bigger devaluation on those contracts.
https://www.ft.com/content/c4cec6a2-7ed6-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d

It is quite telling that from 2014 to 2017 (and the exact moment PSg bought Neymar and Mbappé), UEFA had seemingly no problem with QTA fair market value.
Why is suddenly this contract made 7 years ago (and in the meantime, Qatar had reduced the initial 200 M given to PSG to 145 M) so sensitive according to you ?
The only incident that sparked their wrath was getting those galacticos signing from the old cartel.
 
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So you’re still accusing PSG/owners for wrongdoing.

Make your own mind up, how the fuck do all these dubious characters like their Chairman get elected to Uefa? It’s a mini me version of FIFA, hopefully the organisation will come down like a house of cards when evidence of corruption comes to light.
 
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