Matthijs de Ligt

[jrb]

We can cry about money being a motivator now but Tevez, Adebayor etc. only came to City for money initially. For some players money is the main thing, and why not? He has 12 years ahead of him, £200k a week at Barca who themselves look like they are about to have a break down (despite the league win) or £300k a week at United, it's a huge difference.

True.

But we only offered those wages initially to lure players here in the first place to catch up with the likes of United. Our stature at the time wasn’t big enough in itself. We also sold them a journey, and a vision of where the club was going on and of the pitch.

Now we have that stature, and pep, we have a strict wage bonus related Wage structure, and we won’t destroy that by paying Sanchez, etc, type wages.

The rumour is that the players shared £15mill in bonuses for doing the quadruple? Factor that into their annual wages. Parity to an extent, if not more money?

Success = reward.

 

[@BluePhil8]

True.

But we only offered those wages initially to lure players here in the first place to catch up with the likes of United. Our stature at the time wasn’t big enough in itself. We also sold them a journey, and a vision of where the club was going on and of the pitch.

Now we have that stature, and pep, we have a strict wage bonus related Wage structure, and we won’t destroy that by paying Sanchez, etc, type wages.

The rumour is that the players shared £15mill in bonuses for doing the quadruple? Factor that into their annual wages. Parity to an extent, if not more money?

Success = reward.

I agree 100%, and now United are shit, they need to offer higher wages. I had no problem with City doing it and now I can just laugh that United have to.

 

[BlueRebel7]

Tevez came because he wasn't given enough playing time and he was in general treated with no respect by United. Was money a factor, of course and your point stands but Tevez was motivated by other factors too. United were said to offer him a handsome wage as well but at that stage Tevez wanted out.

 

[Kokonut1307]

Do we know for sure that City are / were in for him? It would be an obvious move on City's part but maybe we switched attention to Maguire with the English quotient in mind or took view that any player with the option of Barca would choose that so why waste time?

Of course, the pure footballing decision at this moment would surely be City, who have arguably the best team in Europe now and a relatively young squad that does not need a major rebuild; oh, and is managed by the best football coach of our time. Not to forget that the EPL has a very good claim to be the biggest and best league in Europe right now.

The big problem any player has joining City is that they have to face serious competition for their place.

I would say this is a case where we are not willing to pay what Barca or United is prepared to. Moreover, I also think that this is an indication that unless Leicester drop their Maguire valuation to 50m we won’t be signing him.

 

[waspish]

We can cry about money being a motivator now but Tevez, Adebayor etc. only came to City for money initially. For some players money is the main thing, and why not? He has 12 years ahead of him, £200k a week at Barca who themselves look like they are about to have a break down (despite the league win) or £300k a week at United, it's a huge difference.

Tevez had the same offer from the rags he came to us because he couldnt stand Fergie.

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

Even the Manager at Ajax stated that de Ligt was mainly motivated by money. We don't want a player, no matter how talented, causing any disharmony in the "locker" room.

 

[jrb]

If true, the likes of Serg, Kev, Raheem, maybe others, are on 200K+ a Week, or close to that.

So as a club we are prepared to pay top wages.

But what is obvious is that we have a ceiling, some kind of wage structure, and a pyramid wage structure we won’t break, made up of a basic wages and big win and trophy bonuses.

There won’t ever be a Sanchez wage at City, no matter how good a player is.

Our wage structure is heavily bonus related. It rewards success, not failure. Think about that.

 

[blueparrot]

If true, the likes of Serg, Kev, Raheem, maybe others are on 200K+ a Week, or close to that.

So as a club we are prepared to pay top wages.

But what is obvious is that we have a ceiling, some kind of wage structure, and a pyramid wage structure we won’t break, made up of a basic wage, and big bonuses.

There won’t ever be a Sanchez wage at City, no matter how good a player is.

Our wage structure is heavily bonus related. It rewards success, not failure. Think about that.

The players you named have all got those wages after earning a contract extension. If we pay a new 19 year old that sort of money they would rightly be questioning what he has done to earn it, and what will he want when it comes to his renegotiations, Its why the wage demands of our targets are far more relevant than transfer fees.

 

[Andrew___K]

 

[Plain Speaking]

Even the Manager at Ajax stated that de Ligt was mainly motivated by money

I didn't see that report, have you got a source?

 

[Plain Speaking]

Not sure how Raiola will do a transfer when he's subject to a ban ATM? You can imagine we might get sanctioned unless it's completely above board? I see we are currently ranked the top team in Europe by ELO ratings.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Solskjær basically shares the philosophy of Pep and Klopp.
I think the next season of Manchester United is expected to be very different.
In that respect, De Ligt's destination could be MU.
If we want him, we have to consider this possibility.

pep and Klopp don't share the same philosophy never fucking mind that little ****

 

[BigBaz1230MCFC]

He’s not coming City deal with it and close the thread.

 

[mosssideblue]

He’s not coming City deal with it and close the thread.

Lol

 

[foggy1974]

True.

But we only offered those wages initially to lure players here in the first place to catch up with the likes of United. Our stature at the time wasn’t big enough in itself. We also sold them a journey, and a vision of where the club was going on and of the pitch.

Now we have that stature, and pep, we have a strict wage bonus related Wage structure, and we won’t destroy that by paying Sanchez, etc, type wages.

The rumour is that the players shared £15mill in bonuses for doing the quadruple? Factor that into their annual wages. Parity to an extent, if not more money?

Success = reward.

This is how it should be, where is the incentive if you get the same money win lose or draw.

 

[kaz7]

Perhaps one day City will evoke that sort of passion to play for the club, even foregoing more wages elsewhere to do so - not many clubs can say that but Barca certainly is and has been

It's as simple as I have already mentioned, either the player accepts less to play at Barcelona or he will play at United - Barcelona won't enter into that sort of game

Hahahaha..oh you are serious?

 

[kaz7]

Solskjær basically shares the philosophy of Pep and Klopp.
I think the next season of Manchester United is expected to be very different.
In that respect, De Ligt's destination could be MU.
If we want him, we have to consider this possibility.

Solskjær basically shares the philosophy of Pep and Klopp.
I think the next season of Manchester United is expected to be very different.
In that respect, De Ligt's destination could be MU.
If we want him, we have to consider this possibility.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[kaz7]

Our squad is good but no doubt could get better. Sitting there and saying it's great and we don't need to sign top players is exactly what will stop us from progressing further. Had we payed the fee van dijk would have been ours and the title race this season would be non existent. Had we payed up for mbappe we would have aguero replacement set for the next 10 years. Had we payed up for de Jong our midfield would have been taken to the next level. if we payed up for de ligt again our defense would be set for years to come.

Just because Sanchez and Fred worked out doesn't mean it's a viable long term policy and that every player we won't pay up for wouldn't have improved us. Wether we like it or not our perception as a club will always be that of a money club and players know we can afford it. We aren't the only top team in the world and we can't say that their shit or have a weak mentality if they join another team.

Hahahahhaha ..oh you are serious
We let 1 more goal than the dippers in the prem

 

[andyhinch]

Hahahaha..oh you are serious?

Just look at their bank balance it’s obvious the players play for free ;-)

 

[1.618034]

Not sure how Raiola will do a transfer when he's subject to a ban ATM? You can imagine we might get sanctioned unless it's completely above board? I see we are currently ranked the top team in Europe by ELO ratings.

That's Out Of The Blue.