I think that you are (choosing?) missing the main pointI've just read the full judgment, which is here if you haven't already seen it, and as GDM has pointed out, there is plenty of logical argument in favour of the case being heard.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Ball-v-Johnson-FV-290519.pdf
Too many politicians of all parties wilfully lie or misrepresent statistics in order to further their own ambitions or those of their party. Personally I'm sick to death of it and if a case in open court - even if the prosecution fails - can bring some of these clowns to at least think twice about their actions then it will have been worthwhile.
The argument I've read opposing this verdict relating to "freedom of speech" I found quite bizarre and it seems to be saying it's fine to lie through your teeth in an election campaign because everybody does it - a curious attitude to take but perhaps it just illustrates the dreadful current state of British politics with regard to both politicians and the voters themselves. If a political debate can't be won without lies and misrepresentation then what is the fucking point?? As a collective we seem to be getting the politicians we deserve.
You are always confident that your view is accurate, some might interpret that as overweening arrogance on your part.
Good point - a good number of the architects of project fear will likely be looking over their shoulders - do you think?Sophistry.
As much as this prosecution is imo,a stunt.
He brought it on himself for being a known liar.
If it'd been a remain politician in the dock would you be bothered?
Those qualifications come from reading too many of yours.If you say so
I bow to your clear qualifications with regard to pathetic posts
I’m worried about the NHS.
It’s now not even up for debate that being an EU member is good for our economy and organisations.
You will surely accept that is a very narrow Remainer view
Why would leavers think that your assertion that - "it is not even up for debate...." is anything other than nonsense?
Re the NHS - Not aimed at you personally, but so many people bang on about this subject clearly without any real understanding of the underlying challenges /issues
Without understanding the strategic issues - it is all just bleating
The NHS will not get sorted until someone - Simon Stevens was recruited to be that person - can run a 20 year change programme thr the H&SC system - free of political interference.
Oh - such a cutting witThose qualifications come from reading too many of yours.
Good point - a good number of the architects of project fear will likely be looking over their shoulders - do you think?
I have always been utterly certain that medium to long term the UK will be dramatically better off if we can ever get free of the EUIt’s black and white now that any Brexit Deal, no matter how soft or hard will Leave us worse off economically. The debate isn’t even being made anymore and Brexit leaders have backtracked on saying we’d be better off.
The argument has now turned to democracy and self governing, which is the only argument to be really had on the subject.
It’s not a narrow Remainer view, there’s a huge percentage of Brexit supporters now willing to take a hit to leave the EU and are now accepting the “better on all levels” and the big red bus was false.
I agree the NHS should be off limits politically but it’s not and the US ambassador mentioning it will be in trade deals does concern me, especially with who is the current President is.
Even your attempts at sarcasm are sadly rather pathetic.Oh - such a cutting wit
I feel devastated and might have problems sleeping tonight - such was the blow to my self-esteem from that wicked barb
Utterly certain?I have always been utterly certain that medium to long term the UK will be dramatically better off if we can ever get free of the EU
Your views only relate to the short term IMO
I have always been utterly certain that medium to long term the UK will be dramatically better off if we can ever get free of the EU
Your views only relate to the short term IMO
What would you class as short term?
So ypu're quite happy with politicians lying and twisting facts? Some fucking democracy that is - and you have missed my point, if any political debate can only be won by using lies and misrepresentation is it worth it?I think that you are (choosing?) missing the main point
As others have said - politicians lie/exaggerate/twist in campaigns - been going on for many decades
So why is it this individual act - which will be easily defeated - the one that is prosecuted?
Easy answer, which - if you stop hiding behind 'purism/idealism' would be obvious
It is.Each to his/her own opinion
Mine is that this was a nonsencial decision from the viewpoint of the senior judiciary and a politically notivated/ self-serving act by an individual
Refreshing to have different opinions
Because someone has commenced a private prosecution. There is nothing in principle preventing you from doing the same, if you so choose, assuming there is some prima facie evidence to support it.So why is it this individual act - which will be easily defeated - the one that is prosecuted?
Why does it matter?
A millennia could be classed as "short term"in some instances.
In this case it's code for best guess,fingers crossed,onest guvnor trust me.
Boris should call him as a character witness.Hope that he gets the support of Donald trump tommorow.
It matters quite a lot if he thinks we’re in a bad situation short term.
It could be the difference between another recession, ruining 10 years’ worth of work to reduce the deficit and how many lose their jobs and livelihoods.