Away tickets

If I told myself in 2006 that in 2019 we would have won the league 4 times and been the first team to win the domestic treble yet we had 8 league games to general sale I wouldn't have believed you.

And that @liamctid is the crux of the matter!! If we were still good old City, win a few lose a few, play well this week, play rubbish last week, we would not be having this 'debate'. It is since we have become such a successful club that suddenly we have a very large and growing (by the day, hour, minute,) supporter base. We always had a steady one but since we had money and started to win it has become more difficult to get the tickets and caused disruption/arguments. Although, as I've stated in an earlier post, I feel being old has made me into a pariah on here, one good thing is that I won't be around long enough to witness the Armageddon that could be coming!! :-)
 
"As a point of principle, we want young fans to be able to go to away games"
"Any supporter with zero loyalty points could have gone to half the away games last year"
"....No we dont really want to go to those ones, just the ones we can be bothered with. The system's broke"

Receiving points for away games is ONE of the driving forces to go to away games. I suspect that awkward KO times, expensive travel will mean 60%/70% of away games will not sell out. Hopefully City will realize the new system isn't working and revert to status quo next season. Remember HALF of away games went unsold last season.
 
How many years did it take you to get to any game you wanted? About 4/5 years of attending 15 out of 19 prem away games maybe?

06-07 I did probably 12 out of the 19, 07/08 I probably did 13-15 of the aways, 08/09 I did more around 10 out of the aways due to my final year at uni. 09/10 I only missed out on United away on points but got a ticket for it, was away for Everton that season too. 10/11 United away was the only game I missed out on my own points but managed to get one through someone - I went to all 38 league games that season. In 2011/12 I could get a ticket for any game and I'd say by 13/14 I was probably the first day of sale, maybe 2nd for smaller allocations i.e. Plzen/Bournemouth.
 
And that @liamctid is the crux of the matter!! If we were still good old City, win a few lose a few, play well this week, play rubbish last week, we would not be having this 'debate'. It is since we have become such a successful club that suddenly we have a very large and growing (by the day, hour, minute,) supporter base. We always had a steady one but since we had money and started to win it has become more difficult to get the tickets and caused disruption/arguments. Although, as I've stated in an earlier post, I feel being old has made me into a pariah on here, one good thing is that I won't be around long enough to witness the Armageddon that could be coming!! :-)

But as a member on this site for 14 years I can still remember back then when we were shit that it was only United and Liverpool that people were arsed about. We used to take the smaller allocation at Chelsea ffs, no wonder some still see us as a small club.
 
Everton away was a last minute fixture and what you get with the system now is that people get surprised when they can go to a game like that, meaning they've not booked the day off work etc. I actually think that's another huge flaw in the system.
10,000 clamouring to go to away games but not sure if they’ll get tickets.
Where were they for the 14 games that did not sell out?
 
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But whether it's taking time off work (or not), a lot of people need to make preparations and if they're not expecting it to go down to their points level or on general sale, they don't make preparations and they don't go. When was the last time Everton went to general sale? I think it's fair to say it probably surprised a lot of people, especially with it being a last minute fixture.
Surely the issue you are raising here are time scales.
Perhaps City should consider putting tickets on sale 6 to 8 weeks before the game rather than 4 weeks before so cheap travel is available for everyone
 
A lot of diverse opinion on here, same old arguments, but a range of viewpoints.

Is the one thing we could all agree on, that we'd like City to hold off for a year and do a proper consultation?
 
06-07 I did probably 12 out of the 19, 07/08 I probably did 13-15 of the aways, 08/09 I did more around 10 out of the aways due to my final year at uni. 09/10 I only missed out on United away on points but got a ticket for it, was away for Everton that season too. 10/11 United away was the only game I missed out on my own points but managed to get one through someone - I went to all 38 league games that season. In 2011/12 I could get a ticket for any game and I'd say by 13/14 I was probably the first day of sale, maybe 2nd for smaller allocations i.e. Plzen/Bournemouth.

So it took you 5 years of attending maybe about 13/14 away games a season on average to be able to get first priority for any game. My point about the unfairness of the current system is that younger fans who love City as much as you did and want to go to as many games as you do/did would probably have to do at lot more than 5 years to get the same priority as you now. They can get to 6 Prem away games pretty much a season now (and would be able to do a few euros) but at the rate you did it at, they'd probably have to follow City for at least 20/25 years before they even have a chance of getting to Old Trafford for example. For someone born in 10 years time, they'd have to wait even longer. That's obviously not fair and favours people who could afford and were old enough to buy tickets at the beginning of the loyalty points system. So that's why I think it needs to be reformed and even if the no loyalty points for away games is imperfect (but at least stops points whores), for me it's an acknowledgement from the club that the existing system is hugely unfair.
 
I don't think it's an acknowledgement at all
They've back themselves into a corner by the number of tickets they give out to corporates , supporters clubs and general hanger on's.
And they are trying to deflect it as a loyalty points problem .
The amount of tickets that get abused through the loyalty system is minimal to the abuse from the above groups
 
So it took you 5 years of attending maybe about 13/14 away games a season on average to be able to get first priority for any game. My point about the unfairness of the current system is that younger fans who love City as much as you did and want to go to as many games as you do/did would probably have to do at lot more than 5 years to get the same priority as you now. They can get to 6 Prem away games pretty much a season now (and would be able to do a few euros) but at the rate you did it at, they'd probably have to follow City for at least 20/25 years before they even have a chance of getting to Old Trafford for example. For someone born in 10 years time, they'd have to wait even longer. That's obviously not fair and favours people who could afford and were old enough to buy tickets at the beginning of the loyalty points system. So that's why I think it needs to be reformed and even if the no loyalty points for away games is imperfect (but at least stops points whores), for me it's an acknowledgement from the club that the existing system is hugely unfair.

I think you're presuming that people are going to live indefinitely. Looking at my own personal situation, I'll never give up my season ticket but if I met someone and settled down and had kids I couldn't continue doing what I do. Although it may be this lifestyle which makes me a single 31 year old!
 
But as a member on this site for 14 years I can still remember back then when we were shit that it was only United and Liverpool that people were arsed about. We used to take the smaller allocation at Chelsea ffs, no wonder some still see us as a small club.

I remember going to the Bridge in 1988 - seeing City win and there being less than 9,000 at the game. Chelsea have done a great job of wiping that era from the record books.
 
I remember going to the Bridge in 1988 - seeing City win and there being less than 9,000 at the game. Chelsea have done a great job of wiping that era from the record books.
Away fans banned that year and weren’t Chelsea fans protesting against Bates as well. Midweek game as well. Following year when Allen scored a last minute worldy crowd was 22k and I reckon we had less than 750 there
 
10,000 clamouring to go to away games but not sure if they’ll get tickets.
Where were they for the 14 games that did not sell out?

A few seasons back City ordered the full allocation of tickets from Chelsea and ended up having to buy the unsold 1/3rd. Following season City decided to only order half the allocation. I and hundreds of City fans didn't get tickets. I have no sympathy for fans who want to pick and choose games and can't get tickets when they decide they fancy going!
 
I don't think it's an acknowledgement at all
They've back themselves into a corner by the number of tickets they give out to corporates , supporters clubs and general hanger on's.
And they are trying to deflect it as a loyalty points problem .
The amount of tickets that get abused through the loyalty system is minimal to the abuse from the above groups

Spot on mate.
 

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