Away tickets

bugsyblue said:
Changes to an aside for a moment, why do city fans think it’s been harder and harder to get tickets to away matches in recent years?

I’ve been a season card holder for nearly 20 years. About 5-6 years ago I could easily get away tickets to everywhere bar United and maybe a couple of other aways. However I’m lucky now to have enough points to get a ticket at West Ham away. So why is that? Consequence of our success? Points system failing? More corporate?

I personally have no idea but it was clear something needed to be done.
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The figures show it spiked, ie harder to get tickets, when they introduced the £30 cap. Last season was the easiest season to get tickets since before the cap was introduced.
 
chaddblue said:
5 or 6 years ago how many non manc / north west accents did you hear at away matches? How many Middle Eastern / oriental tourists did you see at away matches.

There’s your answer. Large chunks of our allocation being swallowed up by glory hunters who have joined far flung supporters clubs (and before I get pelters I know there’s plenty of out of towners who have put the years in and deserve tickets as much as anyone). Also hundreds siphoned off to corporate and legal ticket touts or finding their hands into associates of club staff and sponsors
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Correct
Joes , additional boxes , tunnel club more sponsors
Meanwhile the real fans who were there in the darker days when no one was interested in putting money into our club now get penalised
 
GortonBlue62 said:
Fantastic news if you're right. If I attend all 19 home premier league games I'll get another 380 points in addition to the 380 points I got for renewing. Pretty sure this isn't going to happen, but I'd love to be wrong.
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No you’ll start off with 380 miss a game you’ll be docked 20 and so on
 
bugsyblue said:
No. But I didn’t go to all away games I qualified for 5-6 years ago when I could get more tickets. My attendance back them stayed more or less the same; I used to go to about 3 - 5 away games a season. Last few years I’ve only managed probably an average of 2 a season because of ineligibility points-wise.

Now correct me if I’m wrong but you seem to be suggesting that you have increased your away attendance last 6 years? So the question is why are you attending more away matches? If it’s because we are more successful/entertaining now? If so then we can put it in the category of a consequence of our own success. Maybe that’s what a lot of people are doing?
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Sorry mate, that’s just wrong, 15 away games were available for no points.
 
Ric said:
It’s some achievement to take an already flawed system and make it worse. Biggest gripe is the collection thing. Why would any supporters’ group go along with that?!
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Said this right from the off.
Why would a Supporters group introduce Maggie’s ID cards!

Mind you, if you are against collection, you are just a points whore.
 
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squirtyflower said:
Sorry mate, that’s just wrong, 15 away games were available for no points.
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15 of the 20 away games in the PL required no points? Sorry I should have specified I was talking specifically about prem games.

Cups it's not worth comparing, we go much further in cups these days and thus there's more opportunity. I'm simple interested in why for away league matches it seems so much harder to get tickets.
 
bugsyblue said:
No. But I didn’t go to all away games I qualified for 5-6 years ago when I could get more tickets. My attendance back them stayed more or less the same; I used to go to about 3 - 5 away games a season. Last few years I’ve only managed probably an average of 2 a season because of ineligibility points-wise.

Now correct me if I’m wrong but you seem to be suggesting that you have increased your away attendance last 6 years? So the question is why are you attending more away matches? If it’s because we are more successful/entertaining now? If so then we can put it in the category of a consequence of our own success. Maybe that’s what a lot of people are doing?
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So now the 'mystery' is solved. You only went to 3-5 away games 6 years ago. There's nothing wrong with the system it just doesn't work for you because you weren't prepared to put in the effort.

I did increase my away attendance, about 10 years ago actually, I got the taste for it again. Glory hunter obviously (and irrelevantly).

The point is the system worked. I put in the effort you didn't. You fell back, I moved forward. Nothing complicated about it. You and I chose different approaches. No right or wrong here just a different set of choices.
 
bugsyblue said:
15 of the 20 away games in the PL required no points? Sorry I should have specified I was talking specifically about prem games.

Cups it's not worth comparing, we go much further in cups these days and thus there's more opportunity. I'm simple interested in why for away league matches it seems so much harder to get tickets.
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Six premier league away games went on general sale.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
We're going round in circles on this now.

Are we going to be docked for not attending league games at the Etihad?

(Which was my original question to @True_Blue69 suggestion).
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Judging by what was said a couple of months ago by people on here

I’m sure the way city are sending out their information we won’t know for sure until the day before the spurs game
 
GortonBlue62 said:
You are in the minority and that's because these changes are shockingly bad; they label our core away support as 'points whores' and actually punish the people who have been following City away for a number of years. It's a real kick in the bollocks to our away supporters and does nothing to address the much more serious issue of how blocks of tickets appear on agency web sites for sale. These tickets come from the club who are happy to take the profit while they address the imaginary bogeyman of the 'points whores'.

More youthful presence at away games? Interesting to see how that works out. I'm pretty sure it wasn't people of my age taunting Leicester fans about a recent helicopter crash, or were kicking off outside St James' park last season, or...
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Is that one of the reasons, so instead of buying at face value off facebook and here, the club and ticketing agency are forcing you to use there inflated sites.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
So now the 'mystery' is solved. You only went to 3-5 away games 6 years ago. There's nothing wrong with the system it just doesn't work for you because you weren't prepared to put in the effort.

I did increase my away attendance, about 10 years ago actually, I got the taste for it again. Glory hunter obviously (and irrelevantly).

The point is the system worked. I put in the effort you didn't. You fell back, I moved forward. Nothing complicated about it. You and I chose different approaches. No right or wrong here just a different set of choices.
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That's not 'mystery solved' mate. If one person increases their attendance and everyone else stayed the same then I'd still be getting a ticket. That's simple Maths.

Putting your pedantic "I put in the effort" nonsense to aside - genuinely don't know why you're getting all narky about this when I'm asking a genuine question - are you suggesting that lots and lost of people have decided to attend every single away game they can over the last ten years? If so then I have zero problem with me not being able to get a ticket any more. However I'd be AMAZED if this was the truth. Like other posters have suggested it's more likely to do with more corporate and sponsorship tickets being available!

And for the record I wasn't calling you a glory fan FFS so keep your knickers on.
 
squirtyflower said:
Well it was evident from the outset that the people making the decisions are not part of the core away support and don’t understand what it entails.

Makes me laugh when I read people posting ‘if you are against collection, you must be a points whore’.

Well dickhead, not you Maccblue, I’m against collection because it’s my fucking life and not yours!
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No offence taken :)
So it’s a 5 1/2 hour train journey to Bournemouth for us that includes an 1 1/2 hour trip on a replacement bus from Macclesfield to Stafford going there and coming back as the trains are to cock!!! possibly tickets to be collected upon arrival (high chance considering the low allocation)

And they’ve stopped rewarding loyalty!!!

It’s bank holiday weekend too, is it really worth it ! I’ll still be their so no one will benefit down the pecking order at my expense and so will my son
Despite this madcap idea that will be changed into a raffle eventually
 
Return train to Bournemouth showing £105. Gets in 30 minutes before KO. Taxi to the ground? National Express goes via London. Leaves Manchester about 1am arriving Bournemouth 11:30. Returns at around 18:00 getting back into Manchester 4am. Total of 27 hours. one of the biggest incentives to go through all that was to keep your points up, then you may still have to piss about picking your ticket up at the Stadium. City Matters Committee.....WHAT ON EARTH HAVE YOU CREATED? Empty seats at away grounds???
 
If it’s true that the 18-25 allocation has come from the ‘loyalty points’ alllocation then we have been shafted.

Over the last ten years that group have gone from 80% of the away tickets to 55% of the allocation. Hence why, @bugsyblue, it may be more difficult to get tickets on your points.
 
Platinum Seasoncard holders will continue to receive double points, equating to a total of 490 additional points when compared to Gold Seasoncard holders across the 19 home Premier League matches and the three Cup Schemes (UEFA, FA Cup and League Cup). Double points will also be assigned for tickets purchased to home Cup matches.

Am I tired?
How do they make it up to 490 points with 19 games and points for joining cup schemes
 
There was a point a few years ago when I got tickets for OT Anfield etc no problem. Think I was 3rd on the ticket criteria when they went on sale. Following season not a chance. My ticket points didn’t even get me on the list for selling criteria. There was no way the people below could have gained the points to overtake me even by going to every single game. Could be wrong but I think it was when the 20000 points mark became the first selling point. No idea how this happened and seen something similar discussed on here at the time. Know people who don’t do aways but are on supporters clubs and just keep gaining the points. That’s my biggest gripe it’s a piss take
 
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