No, I voted for an ideal that was supported for many decades by the likes of Corbyn (before he bizarrely decided he "Liked" the EU now), other Labour MP's and figures, some Greens and Lib Dems, unions, socialists, libertarians, liberals and centrists.
Brexit was supported across all political viewpoints, not just Tory and Farage.
There again, there were more racist Leave voters than Scottish Leave voters. (Based on those willing to vote BNP in a general election.)Scotland did not vote Remain. The United Kingdom, of which Scotland is and has been a member for some 300 years, voted to leave. The brave Scottish leave voters got the result across the line. #hatefact
Is ten likes a record?Apart from Bannon, the Russians, the racists, the lies, the overspending, Cambridge Analytica, the facebook ads, the false promise of we'd still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border, the lack of mention of leaving with no deal,
what else had no influence on any Leave voter on here?
Again this is merely a side point, an example that people run with when i'm asked to give an opinion of something. It's becoming tiresome actually as the main point i try to make gets lost. People think being in the EU is beneficial in that regard, I fail to see what difference it makes when, being in a union or not, signing things like Kyoto matters not a jot on your union status.
In or out the EU, our Parliament and nation can and should tackle climate change. Being in the EU does not make that any easier or more difficult. I mean what are the EU going to do "disagree" with the UK on tackling climate change? Again, difference of opinion, I feel it has no bearing on membership. That's the main point; federalism doesn't affect everything except personal liberties, and that is what I fight to preserve.
You'll never get a Lexit approach with a Tory and Ukip driven referendum and a right wing voter base (the vast majority) driving Brexit. Pointless to even discuss it. Any left wing party that put Lexit on their manifesto wouldn't win an election.One thing that is missing from the numerous pages I have read is the LEXIT approach. I have not seen an advocate or it but apologise if I missed anybody trying to state its cause amongst this morass.
If Corbyn had won the election with a LEXIT offer, I would have voted leave. I simply could not vote leave whilst Johnson, Farage et al are driving it.
They saw that Sky news had one in the top corner of their screen and thought that looks nice ;-)
Can't wait for the split screen showing the Stoke fans and a bunch of horrified Belgians waving Brexit signs...We’re going to get Jim White on the 31st doing the Brexit countdown with reporters in all the home country capitals plus Dublin and Brussels trying to figure out the comings and goings and whether the U.K. is in or out. Hopefully some bright spark will be waving a purple dildo in the background.
One thing that is missing from the numerous pages I have read is the LEXIT approach. I have not seen an advocate or it but apologise if I missed anybody trying to state its cause amongst this morass.
If Corbyn had won the election with a LEXIT offer, I would have voted leave. I simply could not vote leave whilst Johnson, Farage et al are driving it.
What time would we leave ? Midnight or 11pm? We need to make sure that white knows exactly when the faxes have to be exchangedWe’re going to get Jim White on the 31st doing the Brexit countdown with reporters in all the home country capitals plus Dublin and Brussels trying to figure out the comings and goings and whether the U.K. is in or out. Hopefully some bright spark will be waving a purple dildo in the background.
Pointless to even discuss it.
You switching it to trade deals now and away from tax and the way Ireland has become the biggest destination for company profits because it is effectively a tax haven?
Probably for the best but remember its only because you though you was being clever with your Singapore on Thames quip.
Thread is still focusing on IrelandI've said before (many, many times) I want a two state solution, as @AlexWilliamsGloves will confirm, I don't think they should be brought directly under a Dublin Parliament. Next?
We've had nothing but 3 years of English aspirations taking center stage mate.Thread us still focusing on Ireland
Any chance that English aspirations will ever deserve consideration?
Any chance that English aspirations will ever deserve consideration?
It is Russ, the drivers behind this are Tory voters, Labour can't afford to push any kind of exit as their electorate aren't behind it. The only Brexit you'll get is a Tory Brexit.
There is a solid Socialist case for no deal, which I am happy to support. ;)It is Russ, the drivers behind this are Tory voters, Labour can't afford to push any kind of exit as their electorate aren't behind it. The only Brexit you'll get is a Tory Brexit.
You won't get a left wing government that can afford to back it though and if no deal loses you Scotland then you're stuck with the Tories for at least the rest of your lifespan.There is a solid Socialist case for no deal, which I am happy to support. ;)
At best estimates 148 Labour constituencies voted to leave including most of their traditional areas and 84 voted remain mostly city centres so not quite a Tory Brexit.It is Russ, the drivers behind this are Tory voters, Labour can't afford to push any kind of exit as their electorate aren't behind it. The only Brexit you'll get is a Tory Brexit.
We just don't get left wing governments full stop.You won't get a left wing government that can afford to back it though and if no deal loses you Scotland then you're stuck with the Tories for at least the rest of your lifespan.
And yet 65% of Labour voters voted remain.At best estimates 148 Labour constituencies voted to leave including most of their traditional areas and 84 voted remain mostly city centres so not quite a Tory Brexit.