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dickie davies said:
We had a quick discussion before seven a side tonight where I said McGuire is similar to Richard Dunne
He's a great six yard box defender and will throw his body on the line, but he's not a progressive footballer who can properly play out and pick a pass
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Don’t agree every defender needs to play like that. There will be a better evolution of defenders than what is in our system.
 
bluesteel said:
Don’t agree every defender needs to play like that. There will be a better evolution of defenders than what is in our system.
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Why do you think Stones was caught in possession against the Dutch?
Because he didn't have players around him who could play from the back, that prick of a keeper for one and also McGuire
 
dickie davies said:
Why do you think Stones was caught in possession against the Dutch?
Because he didn't have players around him who could play from the back, that prick of a keeper for one and also McGuire
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My point, you play as a team. The way we play is there to be beat.
 
dickie davies said:
We had a quick discussion before seven a side tonight where I said McGuire is similar to Richard Dunne
He's a great six yard box defender and will throw his body on the line, but he's not a progressive footballer who can properly play out and pick a pass
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Which doesn't really matter if the manager just wants defenders to hoof it for a couple of speed merchants to chase.
 
Oh how times have changed $ty reporting that double U has been given more time to consider moving to the Rags. There was a time when they got anyone they wanted and at the player would walk over broken glass to get there, now only mercenaries and kids sign for them.
 
bluesteel said:
Fortunately for them, due to FFP regs, they can buy themselves out of trouble. But let’s be honest for one second here... and I feel that this is important...

Our owners were promising things post takeover, few understood. They were talking about a plan and a vision... these are highly educated men, and highly intelligent, the kind of people that I occasionally had the pleasure to meet in boardrooms, you only have to listen to a Khaldoons end of season talks to understand what I mean here. I’ll discuss what we have now as fact before I go back.

We have completed an unprecedented domestic treble, the season before we have smashed most records standing, the season before we set out a style of play on the pitch we were going to use with our next manager.

The previous manager was someone who could start a style of play which Pep Guardiola could continue on from, and was strategically instilled by the strategically appointed directors who were to bring him in, plus player acquisitions.

If anyone thinks anything was left to chance they are wrong, these guys are informed and relentless, especially Khaldoon Al Mulbarak.

Prior to that we had to get from where we were, to where we wanted to go, via Hughes and then Mancini.

They scouted the world best sports facilities, took copies, made improvements and implemented them without fuss. This was nothing new to them.

Read this, come back...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....2009/sep/19/inside-manchester-city-david-conn

They bought a club for £150M in 2009, with a plan to make it the best ran club within 10 years. We are without doubt the best ran football club in world football right now.

We are a champions league win away from a dominance never seen before.

Fans of rival clubs and the media written by those very same fans, ignore us as they wallow in their bitter tears, as they watch us grow and dominate.

They cry about things that have no bearing to our success as they have nothing left to cling on to, empty seats... human rights records or anything else.

The fact is we’re ran by a few of the worlds most successful businessmen, and if anyone wants me to go into detail I will.

As you said, they have neither a long term vision nor a plan, as long as they keep spanking their financial dominance on over priced players I’m happy.

The Glazers plan and Khaldoons plan are polar opposites.
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A great piece that says it like it is. We see it every year from the big boss. We have a real plan. He spoke this year about looking at players we will need to replace not this year but next year and the year after and so on. The rags just look to this year and who they might need and get the cheque book out. No real plan. As Spike Milligan said 'we don't have a plan, so nothing can go wrong'. Go rags go.
 
Harry Maguire has photo taken with new team mate Phil Jones

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