Today's shooting in America thread

[idahoblues]

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What do you want to shoot a deer for?[/QUOT.
They’re delicious! Get a good grass/ crop fed one, better than beef

 

[idahoblues]

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Not sure what happened there

 

[Bigga]

Here’s what Open Carry looks like in America...white vs black



For those of you not familiar, there is an OPEN CARRY law (as in, you can wear a gun and allow it to be freely seen out in the open, versus hidden on your person) in MOST states in the U.S., even though most people don’t do it!

https://opencarry.org/maps/map-open-carry-of-a-properly-holstered-loaded-handgun/

Whilst not surprised, it's extremely disappointing that all the evidence one has heard about and read about, actually turns out to be true.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

So there’s no need for it then is there? You’ve admitted you don’t let people know you have a weapon, so that’s not the reason you’ve not been attacked, and if you’ve not had to use it in 10 years I just don’t see the point of having it unless it’s just because you want one.

I haven’t used my life insurance policy in the last 10 yrs either. Should I cancel that, too?!

Btw, what on earth makes you think you should be telling me how to live my life, and whether I should or should not own anything?

And, yes, I do like to go shooting. The practice is both fun and educational. I usually combine it with a social occasion, much as one plays golf. I enjoy an 11am range slot, about an hour on the range (£10) putting about 150-200 holes in targets (£20-30), and lunch (£15) about once a month with different friends.

 

[PinkFinal]

 

[ChicagoBlue]

11th Hour with Brian Williams...my favorite news show.

Where’ve you been all week, it’s Friday!!
Going to be hot in Chicago this weekend. That should be good for another 15-25 shootings, with a handful of fatalities.

As the world turns....

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Now they have searches before going into school to stop people going into schools with guns. Now we have an area in the US without guns where people don't get shot. Remind me why they have to have guns for self defense.

 

[Grassland Blue]

A wise man once said, " The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have , the less secure people will be".

 

[inchy14]

I haven’t used my life insurance policy in the last 10 yrs either. Should I cancel that, too?!

Btw, what on earth makes you think you should be telling me how to live my life, and whether I should or should not own anything?

And, yes, I do like to go shooting. The practice is both fun and educational. I usually combine it with a social occasion, much as one plays golf. I enjoy an 11am range slot, about an hour on the range (£10) putting about 150-200 holes in targets (£20-30), and lunch (£15) about once a month with different friends.

You're life insurance is for an accident happening (like shooting yourself) to help your loved ones financially, nothing remotely like carrying a gun around which you'll probably never end up using.

I'm not telling you how to live your life at all, i'm merely pointing out that you've no reason to carry it as it's highly unlikely, as 10 years has shown, that you may need it.

Also noted that you didn't answer my point regarding being a nutcase YET.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Now they have searches before going into school to stop people going into schools with guns. Now we have an area in the US without guns where people don't get shot. Remind me why they have to have guns for self defense.

Seems a crazy way to live to me. I couldn't live there.
I suppose if that's normal for Americans, they may find aspects of my 'normal life', crazy. Who's to say?

I couldn't argue the toss with an American and wouldn't try. Any conversation I've had on the subject just seems to go around in circles and it becomes a chicken and egg blame game...
Which came first?

I think your society is too far gone and the gun is too embedded in history, to take it out altogether, which would be my approach.
But at some point sanity must surely take control.

 

[FlemishDuck]

Here’s what Open Carry looks like in America...white vs black



For those of you not familiar, there is an OPEN CARRY law (as in, you can wear a gun and allow it to be freely seen out in the open, versus hidden on your person) in MOST states in the U.S., even though most people don’t do it!

https://opencarry.org/maps/map-open-carry-of-a-properly-holstered-loaded-handgun/

Talk about polar oposite reactions lol, 5 teams and a k9 huh. I also make the observation that the racial makeup of that police force doesn't seem nessecarily representative for the racial distribution within the country.

I bet the real kicker is that at the end of the day the black guy was billed for the the expenses of this little illegal police intervention.

 

[Bigga]

The vid is twixt 'n' tween threads, so I'll put it here and if gets moved, so be it...

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I haven’t used my life insurance policy in the last 10 yrs either. Should I cancel that, too?!

Btw, what on earth makes you think you should be telling me how to live my life, and whether I should or should not own anything?

And, yes, I do like to go shooting. The practice is both fun and educational. I usually combine it with a social occasion, much as one plays golf. I enjoy an 11am range slot, about an hour on the range (£10) putting about 150-200 holes in targets (£20-30), and lunch (£15) about once a month with different friends.

Your life insurance policy doesn't kill someone else when it's used, does it?

Guns need to be THE most highly-regulated, difficult to obtain, stringently-monitored, egregiously-taxed consumer good one can buy because they are designed, specifically and exclusively, to destroy when used. They serve no other purpose. They are not a societal good. They can only protect by destroying or threatening to destroy life and limb, efficiently and accurately, and unless you own a single-shot weapon, multiple times over.

Until responsible gunowners figure this out, non-gunowners are likely going to assume all gunowners are irresponsible gunowners. And I can't say I blame them.

 

[Damocles]

Guns need to be THE most highly-regulated, difficult to obtain, stringently-monitored, egregiously-taxed consumer good one can buy because they are designed, specifically and exclusively, to destroy when used. They serve no other purpose. They are not a societal good. They can only protect by destroying or threatening to destroy life and limb, efficiently and accurately, and unless you own a single-shot weapon, multiple times over.

I'm fairly sure that quite a lot of hunters, farmers, shooting enthusiasts and rebels against the Crown might argue with your ideal that guns have no societal good. The logic behind your statement is that violence can never be used as a force for good, and I think we've seen plenty of examples in history where that isn't really true.

The problem with America isn't the guns, it's that you're all nuts. If you'd stop being nuts then it doesn't matter if you have a flamethrower and a F45 hidden in your garage. You can give me access to the entire world's nuclear arsenal if you want and I still wouldn't use it because I'm not a total psycho.

This issue is a bit mental in itself. Tons of people are shooting each other and instead of thinking "wow, we have a serious problem with people willing to kill other people and we need to collectively examine our society for mental health access and early intervention", a bunch of you say "ReMOVe teH wEaPonS!".

It's like solving drunk driving by banning cars. Maybe concentrating on the reasons why a person would pick up a gun and start 360noscoping their classmates for a bit of a laugh, how they became radicalised to that point, and what signs were missed by various teachers, social workers and other community workers would be a more fruitful endeavour for you?

 

[i kne albert davy]

I'm fairly sure that quite a lot of hunters, farmers, shooting enthusiasts and rebels against the Crown might argue with your ideal that guns have no societal good. The logic behind your statement is that violence can never be used as a force for good, and I think we've seen plenty of examples in history where that isn't really true.

The problem with America isn't the guns, it's that you're all nuts. If you'd stop being nuts then it doesn't matter if you have a flamethrower and a F45 hidden in your garage. You can give me access to the entire world's nuclear arsenal if you want and I still wouldn't use it because I'm not a total psycho.

This issue is a bit mental in itself. Tons of people are shooting each other and instead of thinking "wow, we have a serious problem with people willing to kill other people and we need to collectively examine our society for mental health access and early intervention", a bunch of you say "ReMOVe teH wEaPonS!".

It's like solving drunk driving by banning cars. Maybe concentrating on the reasons why a person would pick up a gun and start 360noscoping their classmates for a bit of a laugh, how they became radicalised to that point, and what signs were missed by various teachers, social workers and other community workers would be a more fruitful endeavour for you?

I know what a flamethrower is but whats an F45 so I know if I've got one hidden in the garage ( :

 

[super_city_si]

I'm fairly sure that quite a lot of hunters, farmers, shooting enthusiasts and rebels against the Crown might argue with your ideal that guns have no societal good. The logic behind your statement is that violence can never be used as a force for good, and I think we've seen plenty of examples in history where that isn't really true.

The problem with America isn't the guns, it's that you're all nuts. If you'd stop being nuts then it doesn't matter if you have a flamethrower and a F45 hidden in your garage. You can give me access to the entire world's nuclear arsenal if you want and I still wouldn't use it because I'm not a total psycho.

This issue is a bit mental in itself. Tons of people are shooting each other and instead of thinking "wow, we have a serious problem with people willing to kill other people and we need to collectively examine our society for mental health access and early intervention", a bunch of you say "ReMOVe teH wEaPonS!".

It's like solving drunk driving by banning cars. Maybe concentrating on the reasons why a person would pick up a gun and start 360noscoping their classmates for a bit of a laugh, how they became radicalised to that point, and what signs were missed by various teachers, social workers and other community workers would be a more fruitful endeavour for you?

Very well positioned and I agree. However, the horse has bolted and wouldn't a two pronged attack be better? Make the legislation to address the social and mental issues whilst at the same time remove the completely unnecessary weapons from market.

I dont know enough about weapons so I might be talking shit, but do the 'assault' type rifles have a different caliber bullet than hunting rifles? could it be a ban on ammunition in conjunction with any magazine over 10 rounds for instance?

 

[Damocles]

I know what a flamethrower is but whats an F45 so I know if I've got one hidden in the garage ( :

It's a hypothetical multirole combat plane that will serve as a replacement for F35s when they are going out of service. So I'd probably keep it hidden if you have.

 

[Scottyboi]

Very well positioned and I agree. However, the horse has bolted and wouldn't a two pronged attack be better? Make the legislation to address the social and mental issues whilst at the same time remove the completely unnecessary weapons from market.

I dont know enough about weapons so I might be talking shit, but do the 'assault' type rifles have a different caliber bullet than hunting rifles? could it be a ban on ammunition in conjunction with any magazine over 10 rounds for instance?

You could do both at the same time, that way any dickhead that wants to kill people will be limited to how many he kills if all he has is a knife.

 

[i kne albert davy]

It's a hypothetical multirole combat plane that will serve as a replacement for F35s when they are going out of service. So I'd probably keep it hidden if you have.

It's only a small garage, I'll have a look see now.

 

[super_city_si]

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