Punk and New Wave thread.

You’re forgetting a lot of the early punk came out of The NE of the US, New York, Detroit . The Ramones were the first band I listened to that you could tell were different from the mainstream.

so true matey

many things from the US was copied back here and punks was one of them, its funny when you think about the sex pistols being a figure head for the new scene when in fact it was all ready happening about 2 years before, main stream music and fashion because old news when the media get hold of it ?? once it hits the market its gone on to something else

i always remember on our council in moston, 2 older lads into punk and was done up to the nines in ripped jeans and all the rest, only for the next couple of weeks later had there dads suits on calling themselves mods hahahaahah
 
Agree about the pre Sid Pistols.
I just read Steve Jones book Lonely Boy and clearly they were not manufactured and as he states, McClaren used the bands money to fund the Great Rock n Roll Swindle film that he used as a tool to create the image of himself as the creator of the band with his genius of a plan to orchestrate the whole thing.
On a slight pedantic note though, The Bill Grundy thing wasn't on Granada but Thames TV.

Got the audio book read by Steve himself absolutely storming.
 
Loved punk . Inspired me to play guitar ... get the 2 Barre chords sorted and strum like hell . Shame the ramones never sold more records . Everyone knows them and has a t shirt now ..
 
Punk was mostly crap.

The Clash soon became something other than punk.

The Sex Pistols were really a metal band and deep down wanted to be Led Zep, just like every other rock band of the day. I swear I read an article where, many years after their original demise, Mr Rotten admitted it but best I can find is:

JL answer to Classic Rock:
I remember waiting in the bar for you to come on during the Album tour, hearing Led Zeppelin’s Kashmir coming over the PA, and thinking the DJ was having some kind of breakdown, but it turned out to be the first song in PiL’s set. Quite an audacious move.

Yeah, I know. I was supposed to run on and do the Robert Plant bit, but no, I can’t [laughs]. I mean, we’d rehearsed it, but it never, ever felt right to [do it]. I thought I’d be standing in someone else’s shoes at that point, but it was a good homage to a band that we do love. Although, yes, I’ve never mentioned Zeppelin very much, Physical Graffiti is one of my favourite albums. The sheer terror and ferocity of it… beautiful landscaping.


Steve Jones in Rolling Stone:
You wrote that something that bugged you about punk is how it seemed like you weren’t supposed to want money or enjoy success. Where do you think that came from so early?
Well it came from all the other punk bands at the time, the Clash, with the lyrics. There were all these other bands saying, “We’re not like all the rock stars that drive around in Rolls Royces and live in mansions.” It’s not like we were going to do that, but it we didn’t want to be broke either. Who wants to be broke? It was a stupid thing. I don’t want to live in some bloody squat. None of us did. I think I speak for all of us when I say we wanted to make dough like anybody else, and we deserved to make dough.

So I don’t know where all that started. It was other bands thinking that’s what it was about. It was a different vibe from Led Zeppelin, it was a different thing. But apart from the money, there’s no difference between Led Zeppelin and the Sex Pistols. It’s the same personality: There’s the crazy one, the one who don’t like that one, and they do outrageous things. There’s no difference.
 
Punk was mostly crap.

The Clash soon became something other than punk.

The Sex Pistols were really a metal band and deep down wanted to be Led Zep, just like every other rock band of the day. I swear I read an article where, many years after their original demise, Mr Rotten admitted it but best I can find is:

JL answer to Classic Rock:
I remember waiting in the bar for you to come on during the Album tour, hearing Led Zeppelin’s Kashmir coming over the PA, and thinking the DJ was having some kind of breakdown, but it turned out to be the first song in PiL’s set. Quite an audacious move.

Yeah, I know. I was supposed to run on and do the Robert Plant bit, but no, I can’t [laughs]. I mean, we’d rehearsed it, but it never, ever felt right to [do it]. I thought I’d be standing in someone else’s shoes at that point, but it was a good homage to a band that we do love. Although, yes, I’ve never mentioned Zeppelin very much, Physical Graffiti is one of my favourite albums. The sheer terror and ferocity of it… beautiful landscaping.


Steve Jones in Rolling Stone:
You wrote that something that bugged you about punk is how it seemed like you weren’t supposed to want money or enjoy success. Where do you think that came from so early?
Well it came from all the other punk bands at the time, the Clash, with the lyrics. There were all these other bands saying, “We’re not like all the rock stars that drive around in Rolls Royces and live in mansions.” It’s not like we were going to do that, but it we didn’t want to be broke either. Who wants to be broke? It was a stupid thing. I don’t want to live in some bloody squat. None of us did. I think I speak for all of us when I say we wanted to make dough like anybody else, and we deserved to make dough.

So I don’t know where all that started. It was other bands thinking that’s what it was about. It was a different vibe from Led Zeppelin, it was a different thing. But apart from the money, there’s no difference between Led Zeppelin and the Sex Pistols. It’s the same personality: There’s the crazy one, the one who don’t like that one, and they do outrageous things. There’s no difference.
Wash your mouth out OB1!

Mostly crap? One of your favourite bands is Kiss, FFS! Prancing about on stage in make up high heels and Spandex and you say punk is mostly crap. When I watch Kiss on TV I see Gene Simmons wagging his tongue and think krusty the clown has morphed into a geisha girl.

Here's a song for just for you mate.

I said the Kiss fans don't know nothin' ; )
 
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Released in September 79, almost 40 years old. How time flies... UK Subs were my favourite band at the time, and this is a great album, IMO of course.


1. C.I.D.
2. I Couldn't Be You
4. Tomorrows Girls
5. Killer
6. World War
7. Rockers
8. I.O.D.
9. T.V. Blues
10. Blues
11. Lady Esquire
12. All I Wanna Know
13. Crash Course
14. Young Criminals
15. B.I.C.
16. Disease
17. Stranglehold
 
Wash your mouth out OB1!

Mostly crap? One of your favourite bands is Kiss, FFS! Prancing about on stage in make up high heels and Spandex and you say punk is mostly crap. When I watch Kiss on TV I see Gene Simmons wagging his tongue and think krusty the clown has morphed into a geisha girl.

Here's a song for just for you mate.

I said the Kiss fans don't know nothin' ; )


Kiss are hugely underrated musically and are still packing them into arenas around the world. They were brilliant when I paid homage for the last time in Brum last month even the Guardian gave them a good review!

Different gravy :-)
 
Kiss are hugely underrated musically and are still packing them into arenas around the world. They were brilliant when I paid homage for the last time in Brum last month even the Guardian gave them a good review!

Different gravy :-)
This is a punk thread mate. Now kiss off and Kiss my fat hairy arse if you want to talk about that shite on here; )
 

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