United thread 2019/20

[domalino]

Just watched the first half.

Jesus.

They are exactly as bad as you'd think a team with Jesse Lingard as the #10 would be.

The fact that Solskjaer watched them pass the ball in a horseshoe around the Palace box for so much of the first half is probably the biggest indictment of his ability so far.

He had Mata and Pereira on the bench, who aren't world class but can at least pass a ball and help unlock a defence, they had Matic, who could have come on and let you move Pogba forward to look for a miracle pass.

He is a genuinely shit manager, by far their worst since Ferguson left.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

This made me chuckle from RedCafe ...

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redmanx Full Member
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The negativity here is mind blowing; yes, we lost to Palace at home, no, things are not good enough often enough, but its not even September and already people want Olly out, some seem to want Moyes back ffs! There is no way the board will remove Olly in the foreseeable future, 5 managers in less than 10 years is simply NOT the way Manchester United operates so Im afraid those of you want him out will have to put up with it, or you could simply not go to matches or switch allegiance to City or Liverpool where theres probably a better chance of winning silver ware.

******* hell, He certainly is a MEMBER!

 

[kaz7]

This made me chuckle from RedCafe ...

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redmanx Full Member
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The negativity here is mind blowing; yes, we lost to Palace at home, no, things are not good enough often enough, but its not even September and already people want Olly out, some seem to want Moyes back ffs! There is no way the board will remove Olly in the foreseeable future, 5 managers in less than 10 years is simply NOT the way Manchester United operates so Im afraid those of you want him out will have to put up with it, or you could simply not go to matches or switch allegiance to City or Liverpool where theres probably a better chance of winning silver ware.

But sacking managers IS the new them,they must be in denial lol

 

[The blue phantom]

He is a genuinely shit manager, by far their worst since Ferguson left.

I honestly thought they'd fuck him off in the summer after the horrendous finish to last season. I think even most rags deep down wanted it too.

No way will he last if they continue on a shit run even this early.

 

[SWPISHOME]

Has fat man Howson had his say yet. Hahahahahahahahahahah. Might as well give up fatty.

Might as well be Celtic.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

I'm revisiting a conversation i had with a Rag around 2012. I could see what was happening concerning us, and i could see what effect it was having on them. Old red nose himself was changing they way they did things just to try and stop us. Suddenly the cups became more important to him (so we didn't win them), which meant the league games suffered.

I mentioned that a long period of domination by us, could end in a death spiral for them. I was quoted the oft mention phrase that they were "too big to fail".
My reasoning was that they "had" to keep being successful or the debts could swallow them up. That they relied to much on one person (GPC), and him leaving could leave a vacuum that couldn't be filled. Lastly, young supporters don't care about history, they just support whoever is successful at the time.

I didn't really think they could fail, but i have been enjoying these years of the "gift that keeps on giving".
Each year i keep thinking maybe the gift is going, only for it to resurface after a few games.
They have no short term plan. They have no long term plan. Their sponsorship income is dependent on success.

So "are" they too big to fail?

Too big to fail? Just like

Kodak
General Motors
Toys R Us
Pan Am
Blockbuster

All huge companies who dominated their markets, rested on their laurels thinking they were too big to fail, failed to innovate and adapt to the change in their markets and failed to keep up with newer companies which entered the market and existing companies which did adapt to change. All those companies then started to throw money about just to keep up and all of they eventually failed and went under

Sounds familiar?

 

[jimharri]

 

[Vicmeldrew666]

They can always "release pogbad" ... on a free to Stockport County!

 

[Mayor West]

Too big to fail? Just like

Kodak
General Motors
Toys R Us
Pan Am
Blockbuster

All huge companies who dominated their markets, rested on their laurels thinking they were too big to fail, failed to innovate and adapt to the change in their markets and failed to keep up with newer companies which entered the market and existing companies which did adapt to change. All those companies then started to throw money about just to keep up and all of they eventually failed and went under

Sounds familiar?

The reason they failed is because people stopped going/buying/using the company. United will always have moron sheep willing to plough their money in.

 

[Neville Kneville]

They are exactly as bad as you'd think a team with Jesse Lingard as the #10 would be.

The fact that Solskjaer watched them pass the ball in a horseshoe around the Palace box for so much of the first half is probably the biggest indictment of his ability so far.

He had Mata and Pereira on the bench, who aren't world class but can at least pass a ball and help unlock a defence, they had Matic, who could have come on and let you move Pogba forward to look for a miracle pass.

He is a genuinely shit manager, by far their worst since Ferguson left.

They will be looking back on Louis' days as a golden period if this keeps up.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

The reason they failed is because people stopped going/buying/using the company. United will always have moron sheep willing to plough their money in.

I genuinely think they are close to that.

Most Utd fans are used to success and you only have to look at the absolute meltdowns on social media from plastic fans so see how unhappy they are.

You have genuine fans who will support them though thick and thin however most of their revenue comes from overseas and it's easy for those fans just to switch to teams which are successful as they have no real affinity with them

 

[bluethrunthru]

I'm revisiting a conversation i had with a Rag around 2012. I could see what was happening concerning us, and i could see what effect it was having on them. Old red nose himself was changing they way they did things just to try and stop us. Suddenly the cups became more important to him (so we didn't win them), which meant the league games suffered.

I mentioned that a long period of domination by us, could end in a death spiral for them. I was quoted the oft mention phrase that they were "too big to fail".
My reasoning was that they "had" to keep being successful or the debts could swallow them up. That they relied to much on one person (GPC), and him leaving could leave a vacuum that couldn't be filled. Lastly, young supporters don't care about history, they just support whoever is successful at the time.

I didn't really think they could fail, but i have been enjoying these years of the "gift that keeps on giving".
Each year i keep thinking maybe the gift is going, only for it to resurface after a few games.
They have no short term plan. They have no long term plan. Their sponsorship income is dependent on success.

So "are" they too big to fail?

Nothing is too big to fail.................however some things that are failing get bailed out by the powers that be - think the UK banks or GM in the states...........then remember we were told that the PL "needs" the rags..............they could fail - but I doubt it will be allowed.

 

[waspish]

The reason they failed is because people stopped going/buying/using the company. United will always have moron sheep willing to plough their money in.

Yep one if edwoods first speech was about liverpool winning fcuk all and still generated money and fans never dropped off.

 

[BosnianBlue]

That's relegation form.

Last 16 games W3 D4 L9

 

[Blu1]

That's relegation form.

Last 16 games W3 D4 L9

Long may it continue. :-)

 

[BlueRockape]

Fukin loved that game.

Never felt more.

 

[Blue Mooner]

ITV news just announced that Man United beat Crystal Palace 2.1 mainstream media now getting into fake news to keep the armchair masses happy.

 

[1.618034]

They are exactly as bad as you'd think a team with Jesse Lingard as the #10 would be.

The fact that Solskjaer watched them pass the ball in a horseshoe around the Palace box for so much of the first half is probably the biggest indictment of his ability so far.

He had Mata and Pereira on the bench, who aren't world class but can at least pass a ball and help unlock a defence, they had Matic, who could have come on and let you move Pogba forward to look for a miracle pass.

He is a genuinely shit manager, by far their worst since Ferguson left.

Er....

 

[remember arthur mann]

They will be looking back on Louis' days as a golden period if this keeps up.

 

[jimharri]

I'll just leave this here for now.....