Martin Samuel pointed this out to be fair. You’re point is totally correct though. After the game I was pissed off with the non penalty on Rodders but thought fair enough with the handball (this was because I didn’t know the actual law). Having researched it like you I can now see we were robbed.The laws of the game straight from the IFAB site:
It is an offence if a player
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then
scores in the opponents' goal
creates a goal scoring opportunity
scores in the opponents' goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
The VAR officials don't know the rules they are supposed to be administrating. And not one official or pundit has pointed it out. Laporte did not gain possession or control of the ball. It randomly bounced off him. According to the laws above he did not therefore commit a foul. Jesus' goal should have stood even under the new rules.
I'd like to see football fans - Wolves had a goal chalked off that probably should have stood and it will happen again - make a stink about this. The officials in charge of the game don't know what they are doing.
Even Peter Walton said the Silva foul was a clear penalty. What is the point of VAR if it can't get the right decision? It seems to have been set up just to slavishly support referees whatever the outcome.It shouldn’t even take that long in most cases. The Silva one is so blatantly clear and obvious, one replay confirmed it was a foul within about 10-15 seconds of the original incident. VAR should be telling the referee the defender stood on Silva’s foot and a penalty should have been awarded, that could and should have been the process completed within 30 seconds and the play stopped immediately, even if that’s before the ball went out of play.
Of course some decisions will take longer but the vast majority should be done and dusted within 20-30 seconds.
Course you can. As was pointed out by several people yesterday, there have been lots of times when new directives implemented in the first few weeks of a season have been quietly dropped.You fucking can't change it half way through the season! Are they going to give us 2 points for the Spurs pen retrospectively if they lower the bar??? Are they fuck the cheating twats!!!
Hence it being good news they may fuck off with this stupidly “high bar” bollocks.Even Peter Walton said the Silva foul was a clear penalty. What is the point of VAR if it can't get the right decision? It seems to have been set up just to slavishly support referees whatever the outcome.
Martin Samuel pointed this out to be fair. You’re point is totally correct though. After the game I was pissed off with the non penalty on Rodders but thought fair enough with the handball (this was because I didn’t know the actual law). Having researched it like you I can now see we were robbed.
It does seem that the Pgmol have approached VAR solely from the point of view of how it affects their members.
Are you suggesting Martin Samuel comes on here for his sources/ material? Is he a member? If so, what’s his username?martin samuel pointed this out after about 40 people on here had done the same thing
Are you suggesting Martin Samuel comes on here for his sources/ material? Is he a member? If so, what’s his username?
PS Martin, if you’re reading this, keep up the good fight. You’re one of only a few journalists I respect.
That's nice of him,they have taken 100's of years of football and screwed it right up with their ridiculous threshold,football has survived very well for a long time with it's common sense rules,they only needed to correct bad decisions and what they wanted to change with players scoring with their hands,the mission creep has been staggering,i hope we are kicking their fucking doors downFrom today’s Mail:
“Riley insists he is prepared to listen to the feedback, however, and lower the bar during the course of the season if that is what the clubs demand.”
This during a piece saying that club’s are encouraged to give feedback. I’d imagine City are certainly doing that right now.
Having said that, it’s good that they may start using common sense, especially on obvious calls like Silva’s non penalty.
Kane’s also saying that they’re not out of the title race despite gaining 15 points from their last 15 games. The gormless lisping tit should wind his neck back in. That’s if he’s managed to find his way out of Otamendi’s pocket.That's nice of him,they have taken 100's of years of football and screwed it right up with their ridiculous threshold,football has survived very well for a long time with it's common sense rules,they only needed to correct bad decisions and what they wanted to change with players scoring with their hands,the mission creep has been staggering,i hope we are kicking their fucking doors down
Funy how kane moaning about not getting a pen and they are prepared to look at it,no matter about the pesky foreigners
I find him a right moany git,he thinks he is sergio level,he is nowhere nearKane’s also saying that they’re not out of the title race despite gaining 15 points from their last 15 games. The gormless lisping tit should wind his neck back in. That’s if he’s managed to find his way out of Otamendi’s pocket.
Are you suggesting Martin Samuel comes on here for his sources/ material? Is he a member? If so, what’s his username?
PS Martin, if you’re reading this, keep up the good fight. You’re one of only a few journalists I respect.
Interesting vid. Yep only the Australian league but a bit of an insight into how it works.
Can't say it'll catch on here though.
It's the new threshold,we didn't need a new threshold,who the fuck thought i know we can fuck about with the beautiful game,for what reason,there has to be something in it for somebody,i get more angry every day about this,i'm not wishing the time away till the next game like i always have done before,give us our game back minus the goals scored with hands,none of the bollocks with it touching the hand of someone else first,give pens unless we can all see it's a dive,if the ref doesn't see it then var give it,stop being so fucking precious about the refs,if they cock something up then overturn it,we all want an honest game,level playing field for everyone,it's not that complicated to do,arrggghhhHow can VAR “check” the foul on Dave and not give a penalty... it’s clearly corrupt. Can’t think of any other explanation.
The Bournemouth defender went for the ball, didn’t get it and stamped on David’s foot, it’s a stonewall penalty.
very good insight.The only positive aspect of VAR is that it's now providing factual evidence of something that City fans have long since suspected.
There was another guy on bluemoon who used to live near you that chevelle used to talk too, but was murdered by the bluemoon serial killer, it is believed he got his victims whereabouts on bluemoon :)I'm in Birtinya mate next to the new hospital
the point is they didn't want to give it so they are not going to give marriner the option as they lose either way, he gives it or they all look bent, why would they risk that?My point about the monitor was that if pigmol don’t want to be seen to be re-refereeing the game and overruling the ref then how difficult would it have been to say to Marriner that they think he should go and check the monitor. He then doesn’t lose face because he’s just getting to see what he may have missed due to poor view or speed of game etc, he comes back and gives the decision. IF he had then come back and not given the penalty we’d know it was due to game being bent, simple.