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Vic said:
That does seem odd when they are the majority. Too many of them vote for the toffs' party - the party of the few.
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Both main parties are the parties of the toffs. One is slightly more honest about that than the other but be in no doubt, the party of Nye Bevin that gave us the NHS is now the party of the gangster CEO class. The party that gave us free education from 4-21 for all is now the party of the millionaire french agri-corps that are paid millions in working people's taxes in order to leave fields empty. The party of the unions is now the party of big business and has sided with big business's request for the ocean of cheap, unprotected, unlimited and instantly replaceable labour to remain open, destroying the effectiveness of collective bargaining. The party of anti-racism is now the party at the vanguard of protecting the undemocratic organisation that stands by and ignores the thousands of brown skinned Africans drowning on Mediterranean shores.

Those with the least now officially have nobody standing up for them . They are at the mercy of vulture capitalism.

Dangerous times.
 
Magicpole said:
I know what you mean, but unless someone has a better idea we are stuck with it.

Maybe if an election is called and we decide the outcome will determine whether we have Indy could be the only topic. If we received over 50% of the vote we win. People know that for voting Yes parties, they are voting for Indy. We total up the votes received by unionist parties and Indy parties and it’s all done on the one day.

If there is an election the outcome of the vote will tell us if Indy is a goer.
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(meant only light-hearted mate)

But you surely if there is an indyref2 you would not want to have a simple Yes or No vote would you?

There will surely need to be a comprehensive set of Yes options to ensure that the electorate of Scotland really really know what they are voting for.
 
Magicpole said:
It pains me you would even think that. Just make sure you have plenty of that Irish whisky in, remember I am a connoisseur of real malts, so none of your rust removing shite. Oh and I prefer breakfast about 8 am.
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Standard Jameson is all you need...or maybe Red Breast....Teelings aint too bad :-)
 
Neville Kneville said:
The Tory party & Farage's gangsters, should run for election with a set date, for a no deal Brexit.

Do it sensibly, so they can prepare for a no deal exit on a set date, if they win, let's say a year from now & minimise the damage caused.

If the other parties campaign against a no deal Brexit & win more seats than the Tory/Farage alliance then it's off the table.
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Minimise the damage = lots of mini-deals...
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
It’s funny and most wanted to vote with the govt but listening to some of the interviews this morning where they met Boris to seek assurances that he was making progress with the eu it seemed that Boris could not give them any assurance and actually on assurances on no deal they came out of the meeting thinking bollox this guy really is serious about no deal.

I have to say if that is true I would have done the same.
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Serious about no deal = lying about wanting a deal
 
inbetween said:
There is nothing to stop Labour from attempting to reconcile with the Lib Dems.

Forcing the imposition of a socialist agenda as a condition of coalition won't exactly cut it though.
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You missed the arithmetical point. The number of seats won has little to do with the mumber of votes.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Both main parties are the parties of the toffs. One is slightly more honest about that than the other but be in no doubt, the party of Nye Bevin that gave us the NHS is now the party of the gangster CEO class. The party that gave us free education from 4-21 for all is now the party of the millionaire french agri-corps that are paid millions in working people's taxes in order to leave fields empty. The party of the unions is now the party of big business and has sided with big business's request for the ocean of cheap, unprotected, unlimited and instantly replaceable labour to remain open, destroying the effectiveness of collective bargaining. The party of anti-racism is now the party at the vanguard of protecting the undemocratic organisation that stands by and ignores the thousands of brown skinned Africans drowning on Mediterranean shores.

Those with the least now officially have nobody standing up for them . They are at the mercy of vulture capitalism.

Dangerous times.
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Cobblers.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Or vice versa. That's our system.

But at least we would have an elected Prime Minister & the argument of no deal would have been fully made.

If enough people choose to vote for parties who promise that, then we are just a fucked up country & the rest of us have to live with it.

It was never even mentioned in the referendum. It was a con job.
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An elected PM committed to go against what two-thirds of the population wants?
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
It’s actually quite funny seeing all the remainers in complete meltdown. The funniest hearing cries of ‘ it’s a dictatorship’. The irony of that when they don’t want to respect a democratic vote in the first place
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Fucking delicious going back on this thread only a week when all the King Boris giddiness erupted.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
A GE will only result in another hung parliament so will resolve fa. Another extension will have us approaching the 4 year mark. A confirmatory referendum between rescinding A 50 and the only WA on the table needs to happen. Its the only way I can see of breaking this deadlock.
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So, what you are saying is...…...

Advance to the final stage of the utter stitch-up - but just to make sure that the stitch-up is fool-proof make the options:

1. Revoke and

2. The utter shit deal for the UK that everyone caring for the UK's best interests - so at least all the Leavers - would not accept.

Yep - I can see why that appeals
 
Vic said:
Serious about no deal = lying about wanting a deal
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I think his handlers know that with arse holes like; Bone, Francois and Cash in the tory party any deal agreed with the EU will be seen as a compromise too far. The ERG have wanted the hardest possible brexit all along and now that the prospect of no deal has been muted they will accept nothing less.

They literally do not understand or care about the implications - they just want to do it.
 
mcfc1632 said:
So, what you are saying is...…...

Advance to the final stage of the utter stitch-up - but just to make sure that the stitch-up is fool-proof make the options:

1. Revoke and

2. The utter shit deal for the UK that brexit was always going to be.

Yep - I can see why that appeals
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Fixed
 
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