Another new Brexit thread

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mcfc1632 said:
So, what you are saying is...…...

Advance to the final stage of the utter stitch-up - but just to make sure that the stitch-up is fool-proof make the options:

1. Revoke and

2. The utter shit deal for the UK that everyone caring for the UK's best interests - so at least all the Leavers - would not accept.

Yep - I can see why that appeals
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Its the only deal on the table mate. Doesn't look like 'no deal' is a credible way forward. Johnson appears to have been sitting on his thumb rather than looking for alternative approaches. Who do you recommend should be up next to save us from this shitshow?
 
lancs blue said:
328 to 301 in favour of the motion, not even close.
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The silver-lining I see is that it is easy to identify the individuals that cannot be trusted to act with integrity and support the manifesto pledges on which they were elected to implement

I hope that appropriate action is taken to ensure that there is no 'rinse & repeat' should there be a GE
 
Brexit's not happening now. I'm convinced of it. We're staying in.

Here's how it will play out:

Boris calls election.
Brexit Party splits Tory vote
Lib Dems splits Labour vote
Brexit Party being more popular than Lib Dems does more damage to Tories.
Labour minority Parliament.
Lab+Lib alliance takes over as coalition
Calls a second referendum
If Remain: happy with that, Brexit is dropped.
If Leave: re-extend for another year, find some "evidence" of collusion or wrongdoing or whatever, wait a few years and campaign for a third referendum.

The fix is in
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
You assume what you want.

You're so late to the party (and haven't exactly made a good first impression) I doubt anyone wishes to explain their reasons to you after having done so time and time again on the other thread.

So assume away.
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Just as I thought. You haven't a scooby why you want out, you just do because some posh chinless twat said it was a great idea, and the patriotic thing to do. There truly are downsides to universal suffrage.

When you've figured out why you want to leave, give me a nudge hey...
 
hammocity said:
Bought other currencies as well but still goes to detract from the fact Labour overspent and were probably relived to be voted out. Because of them the the banks we have had the period of austerity, it’s been tough but not as tough as it would be if that fucking idiot gets in number 10
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You bought the full package I see.

There was never any need for austerity, it was an ideological redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich allied with a small state fantasy world mentality.

It was a political choice not an economic necessity.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Tell me all the reasons you want to stay in, go on, each and every one, list all the benefits, the acceptable flaws,
or the reasons why there are non, in detail, tell me exactly how the customs union, the single market and the full brief and results
of, the ECJ, all the cases presented to it, what the verdicts were, why and how they came to them, and why EU law has been incorporated.
I don't know who you think you are, demanding that I, or anyone, should pander to your requests, especially as all you ask for has been
discussed to death, by me and others.
Take your ludicrous Nazi smearing exercise and shove it, basically.
Hope this helps.
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So just as suspected, not even you know why you want out! You just do because the jack booted, goose-stepping Nazi Nige said so. #Unfuckinbelievable

Like I said, I'm still waiting for one of you to tell me why you want out. You really need to understand what was meant by nazi Nige when he said 'WE want OUR country back'.... I'm sorry to break it to you fella, but the 'WE' & 'OUR' doesn't mean you!
 
Rascal said:
You bought the full package I see.

There was never any need for austerity, it was an ideological redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich allied with a small state fantasy world mentality.

It was a political choice not an economic necessity.
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Not only was it a political choice - if it had lead to the national debt actually being significantly reduced as promised instead of the debt being exploded to unprecedented levels as actually happened - people wouldve probably accepted it and even given props to the Tory party for enacting it.

The reality is wealth and opportunity has been systematically redistributed from those with least to those with most , the debt is now larger than ever which my great grandkids will still be paying for, and the social fabric of this country has been utterly decimated.

So we've received significantly less than pre austerity, and paid significantly more for the privilege AND we've been saddled with a much higher debt than before.

The conservative party, the party of the economy.
 
Seems we are now a ‘crisis torn country’ according to International Buiness Times via AFP News Agency. Do we get to mention ‘just like Venezuela’ under Tory rule or is that too soon?

‘Britain's finance minister announces the crisis-torn country is ending a decade of austerity and focusing on investing in growth despite the economic uncertainties of Brexit’

http://u.afp.com/JuZ8
 
Rascal said:
You bought the full package I see.

There was never any need for austerity, it was an ideological redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich allied with a small state fantasy world mentality.

It was a political choice not an economic necessity.
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Bury your head in the sand if you want, I voted Labour all my adult life from James Callaghan to Tony Blair. I can’t vote for the Tories but I don’t want this set of Labour clowns in.

I think you are the one buying the Corbyn package, he’s a fucking joke as are his cohorts.

The redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich? Fuck all to do with the huge National debt and the need to control and manage it then allied with the global banking crisis?
 
west didsblue said:
As predicted, the right wing media, funded by the sponsors of Brexit, have a different interpretation on yesterdays events far removed from reality. The Express headline is that Parliament have surrendered to the EU and the Mail are running with Corbyn being scared of an election. So fucking predictable.
The Star, of course, never realised it was happening.
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Strangely enough, listening to Parliament live earlier, Johnson's main sound bites were calling the rebel alliance motion the "EU Surrender Bill" and repeatedly saying that Corbyn was scared of an election. If I was the slightest bit cynical I might think that the Mail, Express and Johnson all had the same script writers and it was all co-ordinated by Cummings.
Of course that would never happen and the constant repetition of these simplistic phrases is nothing to do with the Bannon playbook so successfully used in the US.

The problem is it will probably work and Cummings knows it. The fact that is so obvious and predictable is irrelevant when 90% of the population only have a passing interest and constant repetition of something simplistic is the only way to have any effect on people's opinions. It really doesn't matter whether it's factual or not. I suspect Facebook will be full of it already.
 
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