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but does it stop england from building better cricketers in county cricket just like football the better players in the premier league are good the youth players in learning from them, the ECB are old farts and know nothing about the modern game plus the world cup was number 1 priority so test cricket just took a back seat for 4 years, and even the last ashes down under we looked a million years behind them and still nothing was done for the ashes 2019 in england

we fast track archer for the world cup and then got him straight in test cricket only to drop him for the first test ???? the opening pair had never opened before and we still had moeen ali has our main spinner ?? its was a shambles from the start to the finish and the truth is we never had a chance

Curiously, we’ve also prepared pitches that have favoured Australia’s quicks and batsmen.

With the inception of The Hundred next year, I fear the state of the English test team is only going to deteriorate further.

T20 is enjoyable and has its place in the game but test cricket should be the priority for every major cricketing nation.
 
Some absolute nonsense being posted on here. "Drop X , Drop Y" . I would love to hear some names of alternatives. The top and bottom of it is the cupboard is bare! Anybody who shows anything in county cricket has had a go and failed!

Saying that some of the decisions are crazy. Bairstow keeping but batting above Buttler, Buttler batting 8 in the 1st innings playing as a specialist batsman?? On the flip side the Aussies tick a lot of boxes people saying they are one of the worst teams theyve had? With this attack?
 
Some absolute nonsense being posted on here. "Drop X , Drop Y" . I would love to hear some names of alternatives. The top and bottom of it is the cupboard is bare! Anybody who shows anything in county cricket has had a go and failed!

Saying that some of the decisions are crazy. Bairstow keeping but batting above Buttler, Buttler batting 8 in the 1st innings playing as a specialist batsman?? On the flip side the Aussies tick a lot of boxes people saying they are one of the worst teams theyve had? With this attack?

Smith has carried the batting, otherwise not a great batting line up. As for their bowling they are a good, but not a vintage unit, they are hardly Warne, McGrath, Lee, standard. If they were it would be 5-0 no danger.
 
true ??
but does it stop england from building better cricketers in county cricket just like football the better players in the premier league are good the youth players in learning from them, the ECB are old farts and know nothing about the modern game plus the world cup was number 1 priority so test cricket just took a back seat for 4 years, and even the last ashes down under we looked a million years behind them and still nothing was done for the ashes 2019 in england

we fast track archer for the world cup and then got him straight in test cricket only to drop him for the first test ???? the opening pair had never opened before and we still had moeen ali has our main spinner ?? its was a shambles from the start to the finish and the truth is we never had a chance

Main gripe was Aussie had to replace Smith the bloke who came in had been playing county cricket racking up the runs acclimatising to pit conditions! The ECB should change the rules to no touring team who we playing that summer should play any cricket in england!
 
Curiously, we’ve also prepared pitches that have favoured Australia’s quicks and batsmen.

With the inception of The Hundred next year, I fear the state of the English test team is only going to deteriorate further.

T20 is enjoyable and has its place in the game but test cricket should be the priority for every major cricketing nation.
In normal circumstances I’d agree Test cricket should be the priority but for me I’d have took the World Cup over an Ashes win every day of the week before this year started.

Moving forward I’m not too sure what the answer is. Test cricket should be the pinnacle but I expect them to focus on where the money is.
 
I’d like to see Stokes as captain. We have a habit over here of giving the best player the captaincy, hence Root at the time, but Stokes just has that bit of personality and balls. No idea how good he is tactically but he’s worth a try.
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No, no and no again.
Sorry, markb, I've no idea how old you are, but I was 12 (and LOVED cricket at that age) when Botham was made captain. Anybody of a similar vintage or older, will tell you what the captaincy did to Botham.

Back on thread, why wasn't Curran anywhere near the Test squads?
He did well last year
 
In normal circumstances I’d agree Test cricket should be the priority but for me I’d have took the World Cup over an Ashes win every day of the week before this year started.

Moving forward I’m not too sure what the answer is. Test cricket should be the pinnacle but I expect them to focus on where the money is.

Agree about the world cup win over the ashes. Still a bitter pill ti swallow watching them keeping the ashes! Lets win the last test match stopping them winning over here something they haven't done for a long time.
 
Some absolute nonsense being posted on here. "Drop X , Drop Y" . I would love to hear some names of alternatives. The top and bottom of it is the cupboard is bare! Anybody who shows anything in county cricket has had a go and failed!

Saying that some of the decisions are crazy. Bairstow keeping but batting above Buttler, Buttler batting 8 in the 1st innings playing as a specialist batsman?? On the flip side the Aussies tick a lot of boxes people saying they are one of the worst teams theyve had? With this attack?
At last! This happens every time there’s a defeat in any sport in the off topic section.
The WC killed England. The best player any of us have seen in our lifetime killed us. The best bowler in the world killed us. One session of dropped catches and a no ball killed us.

Dropping 5 players, changing captains and coach will only make things worse. The coach has gone so there’s gonna be some natural changes anyway. People questioning the likes of Bairstow and Buttler are mad, just like the Moeen doubters. These are the best in the country and they’ll prove it over time.

What some of our players need more than anything is a good rest, but of course we have a mental winter coming up with the NZ tour starting a month after the ashes!

Some of the other players need a bit more red ball practice but it’s impossible with a schedule like we have.
 
I’d like to see Stokes as captain. We have a habit over here of giving the best player the captaincy, hence Root at the time, but Stokes just has that bit of personality and balls. No idea how good he is tactically but he’s worth a try.

Root needs to concentrate on his form or he will never achieve his potential.

in the same way that stokes needs to concentrate on his bowling and his batting, i'd be reluctant to put even more pressure on him!

simple fact here is we weren't good enough with either bat or ball, although take Smith out of the Australian side and it's pretty even stevens.
 
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