No your point was pep didn't see kev as being fit enough, so if that's the case why let him go on international duty? A fake injury would have happened as always happens with players when clubs don't want the player to play internationals, and it also helps my point pep takes training so obviously he didn't spot sterling was burnt out, but still played himthat actually helps my point, if sterling did eff all, what makes you think a less fit kev would? you can't guarantee a performance by anybody.
For what it's worth Tommo, I think you have made some good points and talked a lot of sense but looking at the team Pep put out on Saturday I'm sure nobody, you included thought we'd get done. Too many players were off the pace, including Benardo, Dave, Gundogan, Sterling and Sergio only flattered to deceive on occasion, that's without mentioning our 2 centre backs fcuk me that's 7 players that had a well below par game. KDB is good but he doesn't ware a cape. To be honest I think this was a game we were destined to lose. All teams lose, it was our turn on Saturday. If we lose the next 2-3 out of 5 then I think something's wrong, we'll have to wait and see on that one.
nope, not the point, as (again) Pep was resting him for Shaktar as he had played a lot recently, you can't back track before the break to make your point,No your point was pep didn't see kev as being fit enough, so if that's the case why let him go on international duty? A fake injury would have happened as always happens with players who clubs don't want to play internationals, and it also helps my point pep takes training so obviously he didn't spot sterling was burnt out, but still played him
I don't for 1.minute think he wears a cape, but look at Saturday how many crosses were we putting in the box? That is not the way we play, we struggled to get in behind Norwich and that is what Kdb does best, his killer passes get us in behind, we didn't get in behind on SaturdayFor what it's worth Tommo, I think you have made some good points and talked a lot of sense but looking at the team Pep put out on Saturday I'm sure nobody, you included thought we'd get done. Too many players were off the pace, including Benardo, Dave, Gundogan, Sterling and Sergio only flattered to deceive on occasion, that's without mentioning our 2 centre backs fcuk me that's 7 players that had a well below par game. KDB is good but he doesn't ware a cape. To be honest I think this was a game we were destined to lose. All teams lose, it was our turn on Saturday. If we lose the next 2-3 out of 5 then I think something's wrong, we'll have to wait and see on that one.
I am not back tracking you must be deaf, is shaktar a.must win game? No Liverpool lost tonight I put you a grand they qualify from the group, I have said many times now we could afford to draw or lose champions league game and still qualify, so why put so much on that gamenope, not the point, as (again) Pep was resting him for Shaktar as he had played a lot recently, you can't back track before the break to make your point,
international coaches always us up their players as much as possible, everyone knows this, if you want to back track, i'll bet the decision to rest kev for norwich was made in advance of the break,
and sterling had a bad day, how can you assume it was from being burnt out?No your point was pep didn't see kev as being fit enough, so if that's the case why let him go on international duty? A fake injury would have happened as always happens with players when clubs don't want the player to play internationals, and it also helps my point pep takes training so obviously he didn't spot sterling was burnt out, but still played him
not my call, again, ask Pep.I am not back tracking you must be deaf, is shaktar a.must win game? No Liverpool lost tonight I put you a grand they qualify from the group, I have said many times now we could afford to draw or lose champions league game and still qualify, so why put so much on that game
Don't need to ask pep, you clearly are right about it all, I didn't trust his decisions on Saturday and I was right, but you just bring out your hindsight buzzword, you clearly want to prove a point or be proven right, the 3 points went to Norwich so fair play you know bestnot my call, again, ask Pep.
regardless, i trust his decisions so far, you don't, fine.
no, that's what your saying i'm saying, i never said "clearly burnt out"I am not assuming you are, you are the one saying kdb played twice for Belgium so was clearly burnt out and being rested for shaktar, so I said sterling played the same so how come he wasn't being saved
Guess we'll never know then! Pep gets paid the megabucks to pick & set up the team, guess he fcuked up although he managed the team quiet well when KDB missed most of the season he was out injured.. He didn't play, we lost, we'll never know the result if he had played. We need to move on and do better in the next game. We have the best manager and a fantastic squad of players, minus a few injuries, time for them to step up and perform..I don't for 1.minute think he wears a cape, but look at Saturday how many crosses were we putting in the box? That is not the way we play, we struggled to get in behind Norwich and that is what Kdb does best, his killer passes get us in behind, we didn't get in behind on Saturday
the whole team played badly but because kev didnt start you are right? okDon't need to ask pep, you clearly are right about it all, I didn't trust his decisions on Saturday and I was right, but you just bring out your hindsight buzzword, you clearly want to prove a point or be proven right, the 3 points went to Norwich so fair play you know best
Yes I did, i asked the question why a fully fit kdb played twice for his country and in 1 game provided 3 assists and 1 goal? Yet your point was he isn't fitno, that's what your saying i'm saying, i never said "clearly burnt out"
for what other reason than for shaktar was kev rested?
and you clearly said that pep didn't notice sterling was burnt out.
Not saying I am right,.am saying if he starts we are stronger, and the whole complex of the game may of changedthe whole team played badly but because kev didnt start you are right? ok
nope, i never said that he was burnt out, i merely stated that for what other reason than a rest for shaktar was kevin left out?Yes I did I am ask I f the question why a fully fit kdb played twice for his country and in 1 game provided 3 assists and 1 goal? Yet your point was he isn't fit
So what was he left out against norwich to play against shaktar for? Am I missing something? Is it a.massively important game?nope, i never said that he was burnt out, i merely stated that for what other reason than a rest for shaktar was kevin left out?
mikemcfc said: ↑Not saying I am right,.am saying if he starts we are stronger, and the whole complex of the game may of changed
Yes i was right I admit it, just wanted to make you feel better about yourselfmikemcfc said: ↑
not my call, again, ask Pep.
regardless, i trust his decisions so far, you don't, fine.
tommo74 said:
Don't need to ask pep, you clearly are right about it all, I didn't trust his decisions on Saturday and I was right, but you just bring out your hindsight buzzword, you clearly want to prove a point or be proven right, the 3 points went to Norwich so fair play you know best.
but you did say you were right.
all three of those questions could only be answered by a representative of the club.So what was he left out against norwich to play against shaktar for? Am I missing something? Is it a.massively important game?
Which you are not, so I bid you goodnightall three of those questions could only be answered by a representative of the club.