This is the problem,what one person says in jest between friends gets twisted every which way to justify real racism,it's not right and it helps nobody,you are not from tunbridge wells are you? apologies to tunbridge wells,i am not dissing your town in any way;)I had to step in and stop a young black lad getting his head kicked in on the trams last summer. A group of older drunk men had decided to "only have a joke" with him about how disgusting black women were, and they were beginning to push him about when he just wanted to get his head down. It's not about having an easier life, it's just recognising that Silva's tweet doesn't help with this sort of shit. Don't think he's to blame, but it's not helpful.
Given that you've brought up European Colonialism, Apartheid, American Civil rights, Minstrels etc, I'm surprised you didn't mention something so relevant and recent sooner.Oh yeah, I must be making it up. Hate crimes on the trams never happen, and racism doesn't exist. FFS.
Correct, you are not sure. In my life experiences (which started well before 1968), I have interacted with many races and exchanged what was then banter, including black people who gave as much as they took.
I simply thing the UK has become so sensitised, that we can no longer speak without fear of complaint.
No i'm simply pointing out the fact that the use of the word "savage" in the context used "Congolese savage" is a negative racial stereotype. I'm sure this wasn't intended as i'm sure it wasn't by Bernardo which is why I made mt initial post to point out the irony of the whole debate. The words Mountans and mole hills spring to mind. FWIW I believe it's the touchy-feely thought police who need to give their head a wobble.So just to clarify. You think me pointing out that the Conguitos mascot uses a racist savage stereotype is racist?
You're now arguing that pointing out how something is racist is racist.
Give your head a wobble.
No i'm simply pointing out the fact that the use of the word "savage" in the context used "Congolese savage" is a negative racial stereotype.
Yes, so that’s one person.
You said there were loads in this thread.
That you conflate the two astounds me tbh.I had to step in and stop a young black lad getting his head kicked in on the trams last summer. A group of older drunk men had decided to "only have a joke" with him about how disgusting black women were, and they were beginning to push him about when he just wanted to get his head down. It's not about having an easier life, it's just recognising that Silva's tweet doesn't help with this sort of shit. Don't think he's to blame, but it's not helpful.
“on the trams last Summer” ? In Blackpool campaigning about a name change?I had to step in and stop a young black lad getting his head kicked in on the trams last summer. A group of older drunk men had decided to "only have a joke" with him about how disgusting black women were, and they were beginning to push him about when he just wanted to get his head down. It's not about having an easier life, it's just recognising that Silva's tweet doesn't help with this sort of shit. Don't think he's to blame, but it's not helpful.
We know it does mate Lee Pomeroy was stabbed 18 times in 25 seconds earlier this year.Oh yeah, I must be making it up. Hate crimes on the trams never happen, and racism doesn't exist. FFS.
Given that you've brought up European Colonialism, Apartheid, American Civil rights, Minstrels etc, I'm surprised you didn't mention something so relevant and recent sooner.
What is it you are trying to achieve? We are all aware of, and condemn racial injustices, but this tweet and the discussion around it do not require a dissertation of historical shaming and if anything you are having the opposite effect on what are no doubt your intentions.
You are right. White people have the right to be offended if Raheem tweets De bruyne and Zinchenko looks the same. However, it seems that people here are getting offended at people who have been offended by the Silva's tweet.how do the people saying it is racist judge this,and this has happened
kev being subbed replaced with zinc, raheem tweets I see no difference
imagine Delph being subbed on for ferna and kev tweeting I see no difference
posted it early , got no response from the offended community
That you conflate the two astounds me tbh.
Lads you said drunk menI'm not conflating the two. I'm saying the idea that lads on the tram wanting to explicitly describe the arses of black women share a common history with the mascot that Silva posted. That is it.
Do you know the history of that mascot? Of minstrel shows? Of black caricatures?
Lads you said drunk men
Dont know if its already been said, probably has, but was our TinTin banner for KdB racist aswell? If not, whats the difference?
I'm afraid your wrong (he didn't use an old racial steriotype which will become apparent if you read the link in full)) and your argument is not based on fact but a perception which perfectly illustrates the point I was making with regard to the analogy I used with the "thought police". I strongly recommend you read the following (it's a long read but you obviously feel strongly about this so may wish to learn more of what Bernardo may have been thinking when he wrote his tweet.No fucking shit. That's why the Conguito's mascot is racist.
And if you think people wanting to educate others how using old racial stereotypes or comparing your friend to a racist cartoon simply because he's black is potentially offensive is the equivalent to 1984 then you've probably not read the book.