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Yet he’s still favourite to win the next election/ get the highest vote.
He may well. Lets just hope its a hung parliament again so he cant do exactly what he wants. Beyond sad that so many people cant see through the c**t. Mind you when poison is dropped into your ear every day from a biased media its difficult for some to establish what truth and reality really is.
 
He is indeed. The Trump doctrine works and the Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph are fully on message.
Parliament and the judiciary are painted as the establishment who are doing everything they can to subvert the will of the people, and Johnson, Farage and their ERG friends are painted as the defenders of the people. A lot of people are taken in by this shit.

Perhaps because it's actually true?
 
Jess Phillips has had a man arrested outside her office for banging on her window.

She has also pleaded again for rhetoric to be toned down as violent talk can lead to attacks on MP's and she fears for her life.

Jess Phillips...

Labour MP Jess Phillips has spoken of her determination to see Labour win the 2020 general election, saying she would knife Jeremy Corbyn “in the front, not the back” if it looks like he is damaging the party’s chances of electoral success.

This was also widely reported...

It was widely reported in September that she told the shadow international development secretary, Diane Abbott, to “fuck off” when Phillips confronted the Labour leadership team about the lack of women in senior positions.

Like I said earlier, they all need to buck the fuck up....all of them!
 
It's a shame Mugabe isn't around anymore. He had a bit of experience in that field. Maybe Vic could've drafted him in to sort it, given how well it went in Zimbabwe some years ago.

Vic is prime ANC.

He would go down a storm in South Africa right now.
 
I'm not so sure.
All he has so far is May's deal or a threat of No Deal. He has to go with No Deal by a deadline.
May's deal couldn't get by his own cabinet, the ERG etc. Why would it now.
He hasn't done a tap on any solution that would get by The Irish and EU stance that would still remain the same.

The way I see it, it would be throw the DUP and NI under a bus, put the backstop down the Irish Sea, tweak a few red Lines maybe, or leave with No Deal.

So does he throw NI aside or meet his No Deal deadline?

He hasn't even got that - hasn't Parliament legislated against No Deal?
 
I'm not so sure.
All he has so far is May's deal or a threat of No Deal. He has to go with No Deal by a deadline.
May's deal couldn't get by his own cabinet, the ERG etc. Why would it now.
He hasn't done a tap on any solution that would get by The Irish and EU stance that would still remain the same.

The way I see it, it would be throw the DUP and NI under a bus, put the backstop down the Irish Sea, tweak a few red Lines maybe, or leave with No Deal.

So does he throw NI aside or meet his No Deal deadline?

All bye the bye and you asked me a question and ive given you my honest opinion.

No deal to the Irish economy is fucking bleak for you its that simple.

Its bleak for us and the EU but for you, disastrous.

It wont be allowed to happen, neither will a hard border for obvious reasons no matter how much the EU would love one.
 
Yeah that's why i said the country can either fill it with leave or remain MP's but at least we can get it done finally.

You think the country is remain so fill it and have a majority remain government.

I think its still leave so hope we get a majority leave government.

One party state? What crap Bob!

A political system that only allows one viewpoint to wield supreme executive power is no basis for Government especially if there is an aquatic ceromony involved :)
 
Mind you when poison is dropped into your ear every day from a biased media its difficult for some to establish what truth and reality really is.
I agree. Maybe if you stopped reading the utter shite from tossers like Owen Jones in the Guardian, then your distorted view of reality might not be so distorted.
 
A political system that only allows one viewpoint to wield supreme executive power is no basis for Government especially if there is an aquatic ceromony involved :)

Its exactly what you want to be fair if you're honest ;-)
 
Jess Phillips has had a man arrested outside her office for banging on her window.

She has also pleaded again for rhetoric to be toned down as violent talk can lead to attacks on MP's and she fears for her life.

Jess Phillips...

Labour MP Jess Phillips has spoken of her determination to see Labour win the 2020 general election, saying she would knife Jeremy Corbyn “in the front, not the back” if it looks like he is damaging the party’s chances of electoral success.

This was also widely reported...

It was widely reported in September that she told the shadow international development secretary, Diane Abbott, to “fuck off” when Phillips confronted the Labour leadership team about the lack of women in senior positions.

Like I said earlier, they all need to buck the fuck up....all of them!
The country is becoming toxic. I fear it is not long until we see a repeat of a Jo Cox situation.
 
Hmmmm, what a fascinating question. Of course on face value, you'd assume more likely on the basis of the strong mandate from the public.

But of course his negotiating position with the EU would be immeasurably strenghthened. And Boris is in his heart I believe a Remainer, one who went to the dark side for political expediency. So on balance, I think it more likely we'd get some kind of acceptable deal and would leave with a deal. All common sense says we're better off leaving with a deal and Johnson has repeatedly said he wants a deal.

Nah, that can't be true mate. A few in here have said he definitely wants us out without a deal. I don't know how they know this but they sound extremely convincing.

My own personal view is that I believe he does want a deal but he and his team are struggling to come up with a solution to the backstop conundrum. That's not the same as wanting No Deal.

If he does get us out with a deal, no doubt some will spin it as him being shamed into it!
 
Purely down to the far left hijacking the Labour Party.

Otherwise that shower of cunts would be out of business. People don't trust Corbyn.
Not sure about that.
The polls have settled into about 45% voting for leave parties split between the Tories and Farage's loonies.
About 55% will vote for Remain leaning parties with Labour's below what it should be because of Corbyn's unpopularity, but those votes have gone to the Lib Dems not to the Tories.
The only chance of Johnson not gaining the largest share is if we don't leave on 31 Oct, but those votes will go to Farage.
The opposition's best chance of winning is with an electoral pact between Corbyn and Swinson.
 
I agree. Maybe if you stopped reading the utter shite from tossers like Owen Jones in the Guardian, then your distorted view of reality might not be so distorted.
Never heard of him mate.
Prefer to listen to James O'Brien and research stuff for myself. You might try it?
Better than a constant diet from the Express/telegraph/fail don't you think?

I'm not sure I have a distorted view by the way, or maybe I have imagined the last few days events.
 
Nah, that can't be true mate. A few in here have said he definitely wants us out without a deal. I don't know how they know this but they sound extremely convincing.

My own personal view is that I believe he does want a deal but he and his team are struggling to come up with a solution to the backstop conundrum. That's not the same as wanting No Deal.

If he does get us out with a deal, no doubt some will spin it as him being shamed into it!
I don't think there can be ANY doubt that Johnson wants a deal now. Because his political career is hanging by a thread and the most likely chance of it being saved is him coming up with a deal.

That was not the question however.
 
I'm not so sure.
All he has so far is May's deal or a threat of No Deal. He has to go with No Deal by a deadline.
May's deal couldn't get by his own cabinet, the ERG etc. Why would it now.
He hasn't done a tap on any solution that would get by The Irish and EU stance that would still remain the same.

The way I see it, it would be throw the DUP and NI under a bus, put the backstop down the Irish Sea, tweak a few red Lines maybe, or leave with No Deal.

So does he throw NI aside or meet his No Deal deadline?

That's the only way I can see any kind of 'deal' happening.

If they just basically shit all over the Unionists & then bring back May's deal without the backstop.

But then the Moggs all have to vote it through, along with enough of the opposition.

I think therefore, that bringing back such a 'deal' would be a less than honest endeavour, just designed to show they 'tried' & give 'no deal' more credence.
 
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