Another new Brexit thread

[Ban-jani]

Hopefully we have left and the government says we are staying the full 5 years now thanks lol.

Highly unlikely that we’ll have left and I think you agree with that.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Why don't we have an election and ask them?

As it stands the options for leavers in all scenarios but no deal is May's deal or remain.

Why can't we leave no deal on the table in an election and let the people decide?

Mainly because no deal is voting for catastrophe.

But if the Tories want to campaign on that, who can stop them ?

They would of course need an overall majority, to do it if elected.

Equally, the other parties would need an overall majority, to decide what goes in a referendum.

So, yes, let's.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It's fucking true.

There are absolutely loads of reported incidents of various non Europeans being told: "That's you fucked" & "Go back home" etc.

The Brexit Party rep on BBC yesterday said that immigration etc is the main point. They are all going to accept EU free movement, so you can feel better about having a Brexit deal ?

Who the fuck are these people who were going to kick off if Brexit is cancelled ? Angry geriatrics ? 'Self made', self centred small businessmen & women who want to deal elsewhere than the EU & so fuck everyone else ?

Or the people who cheer Boris Johnson & Farage when they shout out 'traitor' or threaten to don camoflage & storm Parliament ?

You are going to give them a 'Norway' deal ? Seriously ?

And you all pretend to be on the same side.

Yes a lot by the Pakistani and Bangladesh communities to the eastern Europeans. Did you not read all the troubles in Sheffield where the local settled Bangladeshi communities were at war with the new entrant Romanian communities. Oldham voted remain, where I am from. Speak to a local Asian
cab driver about what he thinks about free movement from the eu. Leave voters.

You do know a lot of the areas with high Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities voted leave as they don’t like Eastern European’s coming over here and taking our jobs.

 

[inbetween]

Mainly because no deal is voting for catastrophe.

But if the Tories want to campaign on that, who can stop them ?

They would of course need an overall majority, to do it if elected.

Equally, the other parties would need an overall majority, to decide what goes in a referendum.

So, yes, let's.

The Tories aren't campaigning for no deal, Boris Johnson and even Reese-Mogg have voted for May's deal.

If no deal is a catastrophe then surely the public will not vote in a government to deliver it.. Surely?

 

[Metal Biker]

Yes a lot by the Pakistani and Bangladesh communities to the eastern Europeans. Did you not read all the troubles in Sheffield where the local settled Bangladeshi communities were at war with the new entrant Romanian communities. Oldham voted remain, where I am from. Speak to a local Asian
cab driver about what he thinks about free movement from the eu. Leave voters.

You do know a lot of the areas with high Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities voted leave as they don’t like Eastern European’s coming over here and taking our jobs.

No! Stop!! The realities of UK communities are too much for some to handle!!!

 

[Metal Biker]

The Tories aren't campaigning for no deal, Boris Johnson and even Reese-Mogg have voted for May's deal.

If no deal is a catastrophe then surely the public will not vote in a government to deliver it.. Surely?

Yep.

It's pretty much been a case of "We're going to leave the EU. We'd rather NOT leave via no deal, but unless Labour finally gets their act together and supports a method of leaving, that;s what will happen. So labour, what leave position will you take?"

Labour: "..."

Rest of country: "Oh FFS..."

 

[Neville Kneville]

Yes a lot by the Pakistani and Bangladesh communities to the eastern Europeans. Did you not read all the troubles in Sheffield where the local settled Bangladeshi communities were at war with the new entrant Romanian communities. Oldham voted remain, where I am from. Speak to a local Asian
cab driver about what he thinks about free movement from the eu. Leave voters.

You do know a lot of the areas with high Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities voted leave as they don’t like Eastern European’s coming over here and taking our jobs.

They are also hoping less immigration from EU means more from other countries.

But my point was true & still stands: many of the real hard core leave voters, the ones who we are all 'scared of' if we cancel Brexit, see immigration as the main point.

So.the pro leave voters on here who say a 'Norway style' Brexit will soothe the 'angry mob' are talking bollocks.

 

[Metal Biker]

They are also hoping less immigration from EU means more from other countries.

But my point was true & still stands: many of the real hard core leave voters, the ones who we are all 'scared of' if we cancel Brexit, see immigration as the main point.

So.the pro leave voters on here who say a 'Norway style' Brexit will soothe the 'angry mob' are talking bollocks.

Not saying it will "soothe the angry mob" at all.

It'll appease the remainers who respected the result, appease the leavers who want to leave amicably, and appease some leavers/remainers who just want it over and done with one way or another.

Only the minority brextremist and remoaner factions will complain, but they are in the vast minority and have no solutions to offer anyone aside from others forcibly accepting their own bigoted stances.

 

[blueinsa]

Highly unlikely that we’ll have left and I think you agree with that.

Sadly I do.

 

[Ban-jani]

Yes a lot by the Pakistani and Bangladesh communities to the eastern Europeans. Did you not read all the troubles in Sheffield where the local settled Bangladeshi communities were at war with the new entrant Romanian communities. Oldham voted remain, where I am from. Speak to a local Asian
cab driver about what he thinks about free movement from the eu. Leave voters.

You do know a lot of the areas with high Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities voted leave as they don’t like Eastern European’s coming over here and taking our jobs.

If they think like that then they’re just as thick as white people with their views.

 

[Neville Kneville]

The Tories aren't campaigning for no deal, Boris Johnson and even Reese-Mogg have voted for May's deal.

If no deal is a catastrophe then surely the public will not vote in a government to deliver it.. Surely?

Why ?

They voted Brexit, it's already a disaster irrespective of what happens next.

By the way:

'But Steve Baker, the deputy chair of the ERG, called on the prime minister to step down immediately after he and 33 fellow Tories voted against the deal alongside the government’s partners in the Democratic Unionist party (DUP).'

And the others only voted for it on the 3rd time, as they are a bunch of lying, double dealing cunts.

 

[Metal Biker]

If they think like that then they’re just as thick as white peoples with their views.

Racist

;)

 

[Neville Kneville]

No! Stop!! The realities of UK communities are too much for some to handle!!!

Interesting how you just pick out the points you think you have an answer to & ignore all the awkward bits.

Your Scandi plan, is bollocks, as a 'solution' because of the reasons I've given

 

[I'm With Stupid]

If they think like that then they’re just as thick as white peoples with their views.

Although with a greater hint of irony.

 

[Metal Biker]

Interesting how you just pick out the points you think you have an answer to & ignore all the awkward bits.

Your Scandi plan, is bollocks, as a 'solution' because of the reasons I've given

More like you side with those of bigoted opinions as being paramount and ignore the vast majority of us who are desperately seeking a compromise.

Difference here is I see and understand the remainer argument and agree with many of their points, but also respect and hold true to me own. YOU refuse to do the same or just dismiss it as, quote "bollocks".

 

[Ban-jani]

Racist

;)

I’m far too arrogant to hate myself ;-)

 

[Neville Kneville]

Not saying it will "soothe the angry mob" at all.

It'll appease the remainers who respected the result, appease the leavers who want to leave amicably, and appease some leavers/remainers who just want it over and done with one way or another.

Only the minority brextremist and remoaner factions will complain, but they are in the vast minority and have no solutions to offer anyone aside from others forcibly accepting their own bigoted stances.

The so called 'moderate' leavers are not & never were the problem.

The extremists, which includes half the Tory party & all of Farage's mob, will treat this as if we haven't left at all.

It serves no purpose, except to make you feel better.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I'm between Norway and Switzerland, but would be happy to accept free movement as a compromise.

Genuine question - If there was a GE, who would you vote for? Brexit Party, Cons or Labour. With Labour being the only Party that could possibly deliver a workable Brexit?

It’s a genuine question as I don’t believe even half of the people who voted Brexit would want/have wanted to rip up 40 years of agreements

 

[Metal Biker]

The so called 'moderate' leavers are not & never were the problem.

The extremists, which includes half the Tory party & all of Farage's mob, will treat this as if we haven't left at all.

It serves no purpose, except to make you feel better.

You appear to only want to listen to the extremist sides of the debate and not the rational, moderate ones.

There's your problem. Most people want a compromise; respect the electorate, respect both arguments, respect our economy and obligations, respect the GFA.

Since when have you cared about what Farage's mob want, or what the "remoaners" demand? The majority matters now if we want to heal our devisive politics.

 

[Neville Kneville]

More like you side with those of bigoted opinions as being paramount and ignore the vast majority of us who are desperately seeking a compromise.

Difference here is I see and understand the remainer argument and agree with many of their points, but also respect and hold true to me own. YOU refuse to do the same or just dismiss it as, quote "bollocks".

It is bollocks.

It solves nothing other than make some peoole think they are smart.

And still leaves a customs problem on the Irish border.

Reece Moggs first question in Parliament: "Mr speaker, how long are we supposed to put up with the flagrant disregard of our border by Irish traders ? Why only last week, it was reported that over 10million euros worth of....etc etc etc "