I'm in a Labour safe seat (80%) I could vote MRL, wouldn't matter.Genuine question - If there was a GE, who would you vote for? Brexit Party, Cons or Labour. With Labour being the only Party that could possibly deliver a workable Brexit?
It’s a genuine question as I don’t believe even half of the people who voted Brexit would want/have wanted to rip up 40 years of agreements
The EU themselves presented us with workable options.It is bollocks.
It solves nothing other than make some peoole think they are smart.
And still leaves a customs problem on the Irish border.
Reece Moggs first question in Parliament: "Mr speaker, how long are we supposed to put up with the flagrant disregard of our border by Irish traders ? Why only last week, it was reported that over 10million euros worth of....etc etc etc "
You appear to only want to listen to the extremist sides of the debate and not the rational, moderate ones.
There's your problem. Most people want a compromise; respect the electorate, respect both arguments, respect our economy and obligations, respect the GFA.
Since when have you cared about what Farage's mob want, or what the "remoaners" demand? The majority matters now if we want to heal our devisive politics.
I fear that as well.
I don't know if I posted this over the last couple of days, but I thought about saying it...
I am actually resigned now to the fact that the ONLY thing that even begins to start healing the huge divisions in society, is us leaving the EU. It's what the people narrowly voted for and we must deliver it. I know I've said the opposite over the past 3 years, but that was then and this is now. This shite is never going away until we enact the will of the people in the 2016 referendum.
Once we do that the angry Leavers will calm down, and us angry Remainers will have to suck it up, but we can reflect upon the fact that there was a referendum which we lost. And from that point we can start to rebuild bridges, trust and relationships. Until it's done, the country is hopelessly divided.
The EU presented us with workable options.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner.Norway for now. Soft Brexit initially with a commitment to a bespoke solution after 5 years, major investment in resolving the NI border issue.
Everyone unhappy initially but it will take the heat of the issue. No absolute winners or losers.
We don't implement one as we continue to accept the Four Freedoms.Go on then, explain.
How do we distinguish between customs checks & the 'free market' without a border ?
Norway for now. Soft Brexit initially with a commitment to a bespoke solution after 5 years, major investment in resolving the NI border issue.
Everyone unhappy initially but it will take the heat of the issue. No absolute winners or losers.
We don't implement one as we continue to accept the Four Freedoms.
Ireland and the EU have both stated that's acceptible.
Which is why I find most baffling why adamant remainers refuse to support one as a compromise to leaving.
Brexit Party Advert on BBC 1 just now. "A new form of government" ....chilling and by delaying the GE the Labour Party have driven the Toroes inro Farage's arms.
OK - "more Tories" or is that not extreme enough for you?They were already there.
OK - "more Tories" or is that not extreme enough for you?
Which, if that's what the people decide, is fine by me.I am to getting to the point where I will accept anything other than 'no deal'. There has to be compromise or consensus of some kind as the country is split in two. Give it a few years and the younger generations will take us back in.
The customs will be on goods, not on people. If necessary a border along the Irish Sea between Ireland/NI and the UK will need to be implemented. NI has stated this is acceptible to the populous. (Aside the DUP, but who cares what they think)So we just leave the customs stuff & ignore it ?
The customs will be on goods, not on people. If necessary a border along the Irish Sea between Ireland/NI and the UK will need to be implemented. NI has stated this is acceptible to the populous. (Aside the DUP, but who cares what they think)
No physical border between Ireland and NI will exist in this scenario, but neither will the UK be in the Customs Union.
There are many, many decent Tory voters just as there are many, many decent Labour voters - and then there are those who just see everybody as telescoped into execrable and highly dangerous extremes.I am all for the Tories joining Farage. I'm sick to fucking death of them, and their voters, pretending to be decent people.
Well the rest of us do, and the rest of us, the majority, are sick of brexit and want it concluded with compromises to the situation.Well surely you realise that at least half the Tory Party will vote against it, maybe all of them ?
It's no problem to me, I work in Norway & if I can get my work back on track, I would be back to normal.
But all of the people who forced Brexit on the country (the same ones who will 'kick off' if Brexit is cancelled), will 'kick off' because of this.
They don't want 'freedoms' end of.
There are many, many decent Tory voters just as there are many, many decent Labour voters - and then there are those who just see everybody as telescoped into execrable and highly dangerous extremes.