Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Ric said:
I think you’re conflating two separate issues here. Of course top players want to play in the Champions League rather than the Europa League. That’s a given.

Using your logic though, do you really think a player is more likely to sign for, say, Schalke than Man United? The Champions League evidently isn’t the be all and end all.
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But that proves my point - Schalke aren’t likely to win it but if United were in it with a suitable squad then of course players will be interested. They’ve got the proven pedigree.
Did Ronaldo sign for Madrid to win La Liga?
 
Kegler Super said:
Don’t get you?
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Kegler Super said:
But that proves my point - Schalke aren’t likely to win it but if United were in it with a suitable squad then of course players will be interested. They’ve got the proven pedigree.
Did Ronaldo sign for Madrid to win La Liga?
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I presume he joined Madrid for a number of reasons. Money, climate, and culture presumably all played a part. Do you think the Champions League was the sole factor, given he’d won it the season before with United?! Anyway, it’s getting late so I’ll bid you good night and leave you with this:
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/real-madrid/news/ronaldo-la-liga-is-madrids-priority_6403.html
 
Kegler Super said:
I want us to win the league, of course I do. I’m old enough to have seen us win it and we’ve got a great chance this year. But winning the European Cup is like nothing else. And Madrid is hardly perspective, look at the other perceived heavyweights in the European standings. Only Milan in front of us, another club steeped in EC history. Every elite club in Europe gears their season towards the CL, us and you included. I want that league badly but I’d be just as happy if we won the CL again. Nothing like it.
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Let's take Madrid out of the equation 'cos they've won it loads of times.. Oooh aren't we good!! haha! You have lost 5 of the last 7 away games in the Champions League you have played since the start of last season .. You lost 4 out of the 13 games you played last year in winning it.. it's a glorified cup competition.. Good job you don't have to qualify for it as Champions of your own Country first, your fantastic record in the competition would look a bit shit then I think with you not winning your domestic league for 29 years or so.. Champions of Europe.. your not even the best team in the North West ffs... European Royalty my arse..
 
Ric said:
I presume he joined Madrid for a number of reasons. Money, climate, and culture presumably all played a part. Do you think the Champions League was the sole factor, given he’d won it the season before with United?! Anyway, it’s getting late so I’ll bid you good night and leave you with this:
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/real-madrid/news/ronaldo-la-liga-is-madrids-priority_6403.html
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Of course all those things play a part but at the end of the day, they’re moving for their job and the professional ambition it entails. To sign for them, you have to believe you can compete for the biggest prizes every year, their culture demands it.
I think the article needs to be taken in context but fair tackle. Night mate, enjoyed the chat.
 
Bill the Blue said:
Let's take Madrid out of the equation 'cos they've won it loads of times.. Oooh aren't we good!! haha! You have lost 5 of the last 7 away games in the Champions League you have played since the start of last season .. You lost 4 out of the 13 games you played last year in winning it.. it's a glorified cup competition.. Good job you don't have to qualify for it as Champions of your own Country first, your fantastic record in the competition would look a bit shit then I think with you not winning your domestic league for 29 years or so.. Champions of Europe.. your not even the best team in the North West ffs... European Royalty my arse..
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We qualified as winners many times. We won four, still more than most European clubs have ever been near. As I said earlier, no British club in any era can touch our achievements there. We have a trophy to keep - not many can say that. And also as I said earlier, the format is irrelevant - it’s what you do when it matters that counts. You were as unlucky as it gets last year but that’s hard lines. Doesn’t mean you won’t be there at the end this year.
I guarantee you one million percent if you win it this year, you won’t talk about it like that.
The Madrid thing is a daft comparison - are all other teams in Europe shite because they’re even further away from them?
 
Kegler Super said:
We qualified as winners many times. We won four, still more than most European clubs have ever been near. As I said earlier, no British club in any era can touch our achievements there. We have a trophy to keep - not many can say that. And also as I said earlier, the format is irrelevant - it’s what you do when it matters that counts. You were as unlucky as it gets last year but that’s hard lines. Doesn’t mean you won’t be there at the end this year.
I guarantee you one million percent if you win it this year, you won’t talk about it like that.
The Madrid thing is a daft comparison - are all other teams in Europe shite because they’re even further away from them?
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Would you rather win the Premier League or Champions League, this year? Or last year? Or the year before...?

Of course winning the CL is big. But, it's a cup competition, so the priority for any serious club has to be their own league. That's what defines the best team in that league, in that year. It really is that simple.

The only teams that prioritise the CL over the league are those that aren't in with a chance of the latter.
 
1.618034 said:
Would you rather win the Premier League or Champions League, this year? Or last year? Or the year before...?

Of course winning the CL is big. But, it's a cup competition, so the priority for any serious club has to be their own league. That's what defines the best team in that league, in that year. It really is that simple.

The only teams that prioritise the CL over the league are those that aren't in with a chance of the latter.
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As I’ve said, I’m desperate to win the league. But if we finish second this year but retain the CL, I’ll be over the fucking moon. You don’t get in either position unless your manager and the players are delivering like yours and ours are at the moment. Are you telling me that you’d be gutted if you finished second and won the CL? You’ll be partying for a week.
 
It was all fine until the coach was attacked in conjunction with Liverpool Football Club and the Merseyside police. United wouldn't do that. It is now more than football. Irrespective of who wins what we will never forget.
 
Ric said:
Don’t think anyone’s suggesting that it’s easy to win the Champions League, tbh.
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Not necessarily easy, but plenty here are suggesting that it’s just another cup competition. It’s not. It’s THE cup competition. That article shows how much Guardiola wants that trophy, I alluded as much earlier. I think it underlines how important it is to the club’s strategy for every season.
 
Kegler Super said:
We’ve won two European Cups in that period and been in two other finals. That’s better than any other British club in that time. You don’t get there living under rocks. By your own logic, surely it’s you having a day in the sun, the Sheikh’s been here across two decades where ours spans much further. I’m not looking for a row, just seems a daft example to pick.
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Ok we will make it 13 years , what have you won since 2006 , losing finals doesnt register in the history books , if it did Klopp would be a world beater , your the most over hyped football club , massive in your own heads but the last thirteen years a complete failure of a football club , and i see you ignored your sugar daddies , the Moore's family conveniently
 
Kegler Super said:
I don’t think the two have to be mutually exclusive. The fielding of youngsters and second string for the domestic cups is the usual MO for those in the CL. And of course they gear towards it on the basis that it’s the biggest prize in club football. I’m not sure the you want to win the CL/we want to win the PL argument stands up - we’ve won the league eighteen times. That’s a fact regardless of era. But winning the European Cup is a truly momentous occasion. I’d bet good money if you asked the players which one they wanted this year, every one of them would say the CL. Professional pride and ambition.
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The eighteen titles you won are from a totally different era , when English football was regarded as 2nd rate compared to Serie A , La Liga etc., the current Premier league format is the best league in the world , and you havent won it , and when you have come close you have shit yourselves. Perhaps your "good money" would be money down the drain , your only reason for saying every player prefers to win the Glamour Cup is because you achieved it , but when you listen to most managers , players and owners the league title is the true worth of a football club , not a Glamour Cup where you can afford to lose six of your thirteen games
 
Kegler Super said:
I didn’t say that I thought he was or would be a failure, I asked whether the fans or the wider game would see it as that. It’s probably the best all round squad in Europe, fair play. Wouldn’t expect burning effigies outside your ground like but squads like that aren’t just assembled for domestic domination.
I think he’s a great manager, him and JK are the best in the world.
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So Klopp is a better manager than Mourinho ? No wonder they call you deluded
 
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