Liverpool thread 2019/20

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Losing 4 games out of 13 to win a cup competition isn't as big an achievement as losing 4 games out of 50 to win the domestic treble.

Tell that to FIFA......

 

[Kegler Super]

Erm, yes well deduced la, I was indeed inferring to doping. Rawk and Redcafe have threads on us being doped (amongst many other things) so with your 'luck' of not getting injuries makes me wonder. And it made me wonder how Leicester gathered momentum to win the PL with a new manager that signed fairly late in the previous close season(but that's another argument)

It's will be at least 90 years before Liverpool or Spurs win the PL and the PL chiefs do not want to see Manchester City win it for a third time on the trot. Our opening home game to Spurs was obvious of their their plight to stop us with 2 farcial VAR decisions against us!

And as for your new fitness coach making you 4% fitter, fuckin' LOL!

Milner is still running about like the headless chicken he was 10 years ago!

When was the last time a LFC player was dope tested btw?

Brilliant post? I'm just being honest pal.

I sense a patronsing head patting in your reply la: /

RAWK and Redcafe are as representative of us as this place is of you. And there was no patronising or anything like it going on, if players like Aguero or Silva won the Champions League, of course they’d deserve to win it and rightly so. I might not support them or their team, but I respect them as players and what they’ve done. For them to win it would be very fitting. I just hope that we beat them to it, that’s all.
If you don’t believe that small margins like that make a difference at this end of the game then you need to do some background reading. The whole of the elite game is based like that. Why do you think your own club scoured the game to bring in the very best in their professions? If you want to be the best, you’ll do everything it takes to get there, new fitness coach or team doctor or whatever. This is nothing new, top teams have done it for years.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Anything further than the quarters I will be pleasantly surprised. The players have the capability but if you give chances away in the knock outs you will get punished. Son’s finishing for Spurs was laser guided.

Pep went with an extra man in midfield at Anfield but it had no effect as they were swept away within the space of 30 minutes. Long way to go yet think both teams will top their groups commandingly then Spring is where the real fun starts.

It didn't pay off and yet we still could have qualified pending the correct decisions being played out at Anfield and at home.

No point going over old ground again though.....

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Fair point. However your club doesn’t need to actively sell whereas our board encourage it. There’s a difference there. There’s rights and wrongs on both sides, it’s certainly not a black and white argument.

There's no rights and wrongs on both sides. I bet you wouldn't see a wrong if you compared Liverpool's spending with Wolves or Villas. You appear to be very selective in your argument.

 

[Machiavelli]

So many nonsense, pointless arguments being put forward littered with subtle digs and total misinformation.
I’m surprised folk feed into it.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

What are Keglers thoughts on the fine Liverpools sponsors got for money laundering

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Please can invite him on - I think he'd really enjoy our 'ahem, constructive criticism.........

We should start him with the universally approved is it right to throw beer at G-Nev thread ;-)

And a 'Do you remember being skinned by the Goat' thread; )

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

And a 'Do you remember being skinned by the Goat' thread; )

Obviously this is starting to gather momentum :-)

 

[Drubas]

But on the CL front again, you’re saying everything is stacked against you then lament how easy the group games are and how it’s a procession. You can’t have it both ways.
I think there’s something to be said towards the issue with you & PSG, but I think that’s more indirect racism towards the Middle East gatecrashing the European party rather than direct discrimination to the club. Not necessarily two different sides of the coin though.

FIFA/UEFA is doing the bidding for the established, big clubs. Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern München, etc. They sh*t their pants when Chelsea showed what they could do with a smart, strategic business man that was willing to spend. Think about the panic, when the economic superpowers suddenly had to compete for players with PSG, Monaco, City and even some Russian clubs. The financial fair play is a farce, designed to make sure that nobody ever knock the top clubs/companies off their perch.

The condescending attitude from supporters (yes, Liverpool probably have the worst supporters), is just connected to this strange notion that if you have a "history" as a "great club" (whatever that means) somehow entitles you to an eternity at the throne.

City football group had a very smart, strategic plan, to ultimately create revenue and build a successful business. They did it, and now opposing fans are using whatever sticks they can find to try to belittle and provoke.

I don't think there is any racism involved. City simply got too damn good, too damn fast.

 

[Kegler Super]

But on to a different subject, welcome Kegler to our city Forum, hope it stays civilised and reasoned by both sides, enjoy

Nice one, pal, nice of you to say so. Always up for decent footy debate.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

RAWK and Redcafe are as representative of us as this place is of you. And there was no patronising or anything like it going on, if players like Aguero or Silva won the Champions League, of course they’d deserve to win it and rightly so. I might not support them or their team, but I respect them as players and what they’ve done. For them to win it would be very fitting. I just hope that we beat them to it, that’s all.
If you don’t believe that small margins like that make a difference at this end of the game then you need to do some background reading. The whole of the elite game is based like that. Why do you think your own club scoured the game to bring in the very best in their professions? If you want to be the best, you’ll do everything it takes to get there, new fitness coach or team doctor or whatever. This is nothing new, top teams have done it for years.

Fair enough pal. You do realise that we have noose waiting should you slip up of Stevie-G proportion. Quite a few of us will be willing to be the next Albert Pierrepoint ya know; )

On a serious note, you come across as a fair minded poster so fair play.

 

[kaz7]

FIFA/UEFA is doing the bidding for the established, big clubs. Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern München, etc. They sh*t their pants when Chelsea showed what they could do with a smart, strategic business man that was willing to spend. Think about the panic, when the economic superpowers suddenly had to compete for players with PSG, Monaco, City and even some Russian clubs. The financial fair play is a farce, designed to make sure that nobody ever knock the top clubs/companies off their perch.

The condescending attitude from supporters (yes, Liverpool probably have the worst supporters), is just connected to this strange notion that if you have a "history" as a "great club" (whatever that means) somehow entitles you to an eternity at the throne.

City football group had a very smart, strategic plan, to ultimately create revenue and build a successful business. They did it, and now opposing fans are using whatever sticks they can find to try to belittle and provoke.

I don't think there is any racism involved. City simply got too damn good, too damn fast.

I agree with most of that except the last bit,the media showed themselves up to be racist towards our owner in the summer in all their glory,for winning the treble we got smacked square in the gob with every racist comments they could get away with,we have had it for 10yrs,your own fans constantly refer to oil money and human rights,arabs,middle east lot(all said in this thread numerous times) and varies other things,the racism toward our owner has been there from the start,you won't read the media about our club as closely as we do so probably don't notice it,the likes of Delaney are a disgrace,the media are lucky our owner isn't the sueing type

 

[Kegler Super]

What are Keglers thoughts on the fine Liverpools sponsors got for money laundering

In reality though, what does it have to with our club though? None of it is football related, they’re matters that pertain to them and then alone. It’s in the same way that the human rights issues surrounding your owners have nothing at all to do with your club. The best thing in these instances is just to concentrate on football. The introduction of big business into the game has muddied the top level irrevocably whether any of us like it or not.

 

[Kegler Super]

Fair enough pal. You do realise that we have noose waiting should you slip up of Stevie-G proportion. Quite a few of us will be willing to be the next Albert Pierrepoint ya know; )

On a serious note, you come across as a fair minded poster so fair play.

Hahaha...fuck off! ;)

There’s no point in silly tit for tat arguments. Much better to sit and debate it. Of course there doesn’t always have to be agreement, but civility should be a constant.

 

[VOOMER]

Hahaha...fuck off! ;)

There’s no point in silly tit for tat arguments. Much better to sit and debate it. Of course there doesn’t always have to be agreement, but civility should be a constant.

Just a quick question how long have you been a dipper for?

 

[Kegler Super]

Just a quick question how long have you been a dipper for?

I’ve never ‘dipped’ any bins in my life ;)

First game in ‘82, started going with the lads 87/88. Been a Kop STH for over a decade. Been to most grounds in this country and a few abroad too.
One question I’d like to ask about this forum is how many are actual match going Blues? That’s not a stick to beat anyone with, more a case that those who live out their football lives on the Internet generally have a different mindset than others. You only have to look at RAWK to back that theory up.

 

[give it to gordon]

I’ve never ‘dipped’ any bins in my life ;)

First game in ‘82, started going with the lads 87/88. Been a Kop STH for over a decade. Been to most grounds in this country and a few abroad too.
One question I’d like to ask about this forum is how many are actual match going Blues? That’s not a stick to beat anyone with, more a case that those who live out their football lives on the Internet generally have a different mindset than others. You only have to look at RAWK to back that theory up.

What's classed as match going I go about 8 to 10 home games a season (600 mile round trip). Is that enough games to class myself as match going ?

 

[kaz7]

In reality though, what does it have to with our club though? None of it is football related, they’re matters that pertain to them and then alone. It’s in the same way that the human rights issues surrounding your owners have nothing at all to do with your club. The best thing in these instances is just to concentrate on football. The introduction of big business into the game has muddied the top level irrevocably whether any of us like it or not.

Are you taking it in turns to drop in the human rights line,stop it,it is offensive and false,standard charter have been found guilty and fined for money laundering

 

[Breadsnapper]

For our visitors, the issue of money gets brought up a lot and has been used by yourselves in this thread. So to make it clear just like Liverpool we can only spend what we earn. We do not have an endless supply of money tucked away under a mattress. Now if we make more money than you then we can spend more. That is nothing to do with oil money, being bank rolled by a sugar daddy. It is to do with the fact then when we were taken over a plan was out into place which has been pretty much flawlessly executed. Rather than state the very niave you've got endless resources argument perhaps you should look to your own board and owners and ask them how a team with nearly a billion fans worldwide can't compete with little old City. The fact that you continually throw in the money equation is frankly ridiculous as you too have been given huge advantages through wealthy benefactors. This is the bit that wrankles me as now it seems that what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.

 

[mexico1970]

Are you taking it in turns to drop in the human rights line,stop it,it is offensive

When the Littlewoods big business got involved that was all fair and above board, what they really mean is that when the playing field was somewhat levelled it became unfair for them.