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Yes. But here’s the problem.

Suppose she was a young journalist and was groped by a politician. You’d expect her to remember it.

Well, she’s given a detailed account of what happened,when it happened, where she was in relation to him and who she discussed it with that same evening. She is a person that members of government and opposition appear to hold in high regard as regards her general truthfulness.

It doesn’t necessarily prove it’s true but it’s enough for a conviction if a jury believed her.

Boris, who recently denied saying millions had been spaffed up the wall investigating historical sexual abuse cases when many recordings of him saying exactly that exist, has issued a bare denial.

Who do you believe?

Yes but there's also a lot of political motivation on her side and we simply don't know the facts. It wouldn't go to court as there's not enough evidence to warrant a trial.
As I said, I'm not a fan of his, but if you can't look at this in an impartial way then you can't pass judgement.
 
I'm not a fan of Boris, but the timing is very suspicious, and a hand on a knee, judged by 1999 standards, is pretty tame.
Innocent in both cases until proven guilty.

I believe he whispered sweet humbug in her ear as well as touching a thigh, can count himself lucky we don’t have the death penalty in this country.
 
She says it was her inner thigh, but in some ways I agree with you, in which case why doesn't he have the balls to come out and say "yes I was a bit of a flirt. Everyone knows that. It was in the past. I'm sorry for any hurt or offence". But no, he's issued a bare denial and by default called his accuser a liar. He won't do the right thing because he's a coward and a fucking liar is why. Everyone knows it. We have a PM who is a fucking coward and a fucking liar.

Fair comment but even though some would say 'well done for admitting it' the lovely lefties would crucify him and wag fingers and demand apologies until the end of time. We would never get anywhere and his career would be over. Plus what if he hasn't done it and this is politically motivated? How would you feel?
 
Still waiting for the Tory Boys on here to come out in rapturous support of Javids attempt to out Labour, Labour. £10.50 and hour..........I thought that was magic money tree stuff ? Ruinous as its a chancellor spending money that businesses have to pay as a political stunt, ruination of the country etc etc.............come on...lets be 'avin yer

After five years and a nice round figure that will probably not happen knowing the Tories, as sad as Labours £10 an hour stunt. Election coming up and bribing season has started.
 
Still waiting for the Tory Boys on here to come out in rapturous support of Javids attempt to out Labour, Labour. £10.50 and hour..........I thought that was magic money tree stuff ? Ruinous as its a chancellor spending money that businesses have to pay as a political stunt, ruination of the country etc etc.............come on...lets be 'avin yer

Agreed, I don't like the policy. And if it's anything like what I've seen with hikes in this previously, it's too expensive to maintain the gaps to managers, so that just gets eaten away.
Compared to what Labour proposed last week though, it's still either Tories or Lib Dems for me.
 
She says it was her inner thigh, but in some ways I agree with you, in which case why doesn't he have the balls to come out and say "yes I was a bit of a flirt. Everyone knows that. It was in the past. I'm sorry for any hurt or offence". But no, he's issued a bare denial and by default called his accuser a liar. He won't do the right thing because he's a coward and a fucking liar is why. Everyone knows it. We have a PM who is a fucking coward and a fucking liar.

Oh for god sake!
 
Still waiting for the Tory Boys on here to come out in rapturous support of Javids attempt to out Labour, Labour. £10.50 and hour..........I thought that was magic money tree stuff ? Ruinous as its a chancellor spending money that businesses have to pay as a political stunt, ruination of the country etc etc.............come on...lets be 'avin yer
Labour are raising it to ten quid straight away and then rising with inflation, say 2% per annum that would be about £10.80 by 2024.
Tories are proposing £10.50 by 2024.
Labour's proposal seems a better bet (definitely between 2020 and 2024).
 
Labour are raising it to ten quid straight away and then rising with inflation, say 2% per annum that would be about £10.80 by 2024.
Tories are proposing £10.50 by 2024.
Labour's proposal seems a better bet (definitely between 2020 and 2024).

What happened to the inflation since they first put the tenner idea out there? Have they said how they are paying for it yet? How was the tenner figure worked out?
 
Was it Amber Rudd who said he's 'not a person you'd want to be in the back of a taxi with '?
Both in May's cabinet at that point.
 
We're truly fucked in this country.

Press lapping up Javid's bullshit over allegations of inappropriate groping by our Prime Minister.

How does that help woman come forward in other cases? Like the Orange Twatwaffle across the pond these actions are being normalised by a complicit media.

We are a truly fucked up society.
 
We're truly fucked in this country.

Press lapping up Javid's bullshit over allegations of inappropriate groping by our Prime Minister.

How does that help woman come forward in other cases? Like the Orange Twatwaffle across the pond these actions are being normalised by a complicit media.

We are a truly fucked up society.

I’m just glad she has found the strength after 20 years to tell her story just as Johnson become PM, as the Tory conference is starting and when her first article is published in her new job

#convenient
 
We're truly fucked in this country.

Press lapping up Javid's bullshit over allegations of inappropriate groping by our Prime Minister.

How does that help woman come forward in other cases? Like the Orange Twatwaffle across the pond these actions are being normalised by a complicit media.

We are a truly fucked up society.

I’m going to shock you and disagree with this.

He’s touched someone’s leg 2 decades ago, it’s a nothing story and is all over the news.

Now Johnson quite clearly has a few issues with his conduct, especially the affairs and god knows how many children he’s got but I think it’s has blown up into something it’s not and it may actually have the reverse affect on more serious accusations.
 
I’m going to shock you and disagree with this.

He’s touched someone’s leg 2 decades ago, it’s a nothing story and is all over the news.

Now Johnson quite clearly has a few issues with his conduct, especially the affairs and god knows how many children he’s got but I think it’s has blown up into something it’s not and it may actually have the reverse affect on more serious accusations.
It's all a bit odd. Plenty of opportunities to come forward with this in the past.
 
It’s a fucking joke. 25 years ago people still pinched people’s arses in clubs. An absolute joke that this has come out now.

Why? If he sexually assaulted this woman as she alleged why should he be treated any differently from any other case of historical sexual abuse?
 

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