Liverpool thread 2019/20

[hammocity]

I’ll say it again, things like that aren’t suitable for this kind of place. If you want to enter into a private correspondence on the matter then that’s fine but I’d like to hear your own basic experiences of the region before getting into the conversation to ensure context. Feel free to message me privately and keep it to football on here.

Who the fuck do you think you are?

 

[Sid C]

Challenge me to what the fuck you like, I am not in the slightest bit interested.
If I read one more post of yours with a dig in it and you are gone

He’s just pm’d me calling you a right c*nt. thought you should know.

 

[Kegler Super]

The problem is that we are seen as the 'pure evil' of football, we were bought by our owner and everyone at the time just laughed behind closed doors thinking it would all go tits up like portsmouth et al...but it hasn't. In fact we are probably the best run football club in world football, and that's not me saying that through blue tinted specs

What has happened though is because the threat became apparent and real in terms of us challenging, the so called old G14 clubs didn't like it because they realised the status quo was changing. And even though you may not agree (maybe you will) but Liverpool are included in that cohort that have tried to both block our club from growing and lobbying for us to be heavily sanctioned - there has been secret meetings etc etc held to both discuss the threat and ways of stopping it via UEFA

Unfortunately football is now seen as more of a business than a sport in some people's eyes and they will do anything to protect their investment from the likes of ourselves and PSG

The biggest threat to football is in fact trying to make it a closed shop so that the rich stay rich and the also-rans stay in the lower pecking order - the philosophy of how dare you try and threaten the status quo

Difference is i and I would say the whole fan base of our club couldn't careless if another owner were to come in and purchase say everton, wolves etc and ran it how they wanted but in a correct manner so that they could challenge for trophies

However the clubs such as liverpool, arsenal, united, bayern, juve, madrid and barca amongst others don't want that one bit - case in example i think was when Sevilla got bought out, he didnt last long because of the corrupt nature of the game in favour of the established top 2 in la liga

I agree with most of that, especially the G14 bit. I said as much the other day. Like all establishments, they don’t like too much change. The money coming into the game from across the Middle East (this is a catch all term for investments from Abu Dhabi/Qatar etc, not a dig at the City owners) is a thorn in their side and has roots in racism in my book, standard fare for European elderly men. There were no issues with white American billionaires queuing up to get on the gravy train. I don’t necessarily subscribe to bias shown by refs or anything like that, but I definitely agree that G14 are keen to keep the doors half closed. This is one of the reasons why City & PSG are desperate to win the CL in my opinion, they can’t be ignored then. They shouldn’t now obviously, but you get my point.

 

[Bilboblue]

Lads and lasses please stop responding to these dippers it's doing my head in. I just want bluemoon to go back to being for us City fans if we ignore the dippers they might with any luck f**k off.. ..

Funny how we never seem to see them when they aren't top....

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I long to see the day ffp is brought crashing down and every Sheikh and oligarch under the sun buys Real Betis, fortuna Dusseldorf, Torino, Sunderland, Hamburg, West Ham etc then the victim club and the rest of the corrupt cartel clubs are consigned to the history bins. that's the real reason it was introduced, not to stop City and PSG they knew it was too late for that but to stop any other club joining the party.

 

[Kegler Super]

I don't need to have experience of the region nor do i want to pm you,you are talking about our owner and club so here is just fine
The facts are our owner is one man,he is not a state,a country,the middle east,he is not responsible for human rights offences unless you know something i don't,you retreat as soon as you are challenged about it,he is rich but we are self sufficent so by repeating it as if it gives us an advantage is wrong,we spend depending on how much we earn and the current rules
To talk football yourself and the others do not need to keep repeating the above

That’s sound, football is all I’m here to talk. Nice one.

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

I’ll say it again, things like that aren’t suitable for this kind of place. If you want to enter into a private correspondence on the matter then that’s fine but I’d like to hear your own basic experiences of the region before getting into the conversation to ensure context. Feel free to message me privately and keep it to football on here.

The arrogance never fails to amaze. Since you jumped onto this forum i think most of the generic insults and witticisms have been discussed. I think it's fair to say that city fans wont be the first to post and discuss them on a Liverpool thread. I thinks it's time you left, you try to talk football and sweeten up the conversation every now and then dropping in a few compliments, but to be honest you failed to stand out from the rest of the usual dickheads migrating from RAWK

 

[Kegler Super]

I long to see the day ffp is brought crashing down and every Sheikh and oligarch under the sun buys Real Betis, fortuna Dusseldorf, Torino, Sunderland, Hamburg, West Ham etc then the victim club and the rest of the corrupt cartel clubs are consigned to the history bins. that's the real reason it was introduced, not to stop City and PSG they knew it was too late for that but to stop any other club joining the party.

I reckon that FFP is great for meaning clubs actually have to live within whatever means they have, but there’s a strong case too that it’s there to keep certain doors locked.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I reckon that FFP is great for meaning clubs actually have to live within whatever means they have, but there’s a strong case too that it’s there to keep certain doors locked.

Do you mean "within their means" by loading huge debt on the club or buy how it helped Bury? don't be naive, it's so nobody buys other good sized clubs so owners like yours could keep their place at the trough while leeching money out of the profits.

 

[Kegler Super]

The arrogance never fails to amaze. Since you jumped onto this forum i think most of the generic insults and witticisms have been discussed. I think it's fair to say that city fans wont be the first to post and discuss them on a Liverpool thread. I thinks it's time you left, you try to talk football and sweeten up the conversation every now and then dropping in a few compliments, but to be honest you failed to stand out from the rest of the usual dickheads migrating from RAWK

It’s nothing to do with arrogance, mate. I’ve been getting called out and I’ve said that it’s not the place to discuss things. To be fair, I should have just sent it as a private message to keep it off here and to hopefully put an end to it. And read my posts, I actually have a lot of admiration for the way you do things. Just because I support another team doesn’t mean I can’t respect what another’s doing. And I’ve been pretty clear about RAWK, they’re in no way representative of our real life fans in the same way this doesn’t necessarily represent yours. I go on a forum much more representative of our local fan base.

 

[Kegler Super]

Do you mean "within their means" by loading huge debt on the club or buy how it helped Bury? don't be naive, it's so nobody buys other good sized clubs so owners like yours could keep their place at the trough while leeching money out of the profits.

Our club is largely debt free. Our owners don’t take a penny out of the club, there’s plenty of transparent data on it. They make their money out of Liverpool FC by leveraging their value against buying another asset for the Fenway portfolio. Same as the guy who runs a property one. Buy a house, do it up and make it look shiny. Use the value of that to buy somewhere else. The problem we have is that all the extra equity that the club is worth doesn’t get seen by them, it’s FSG’s. All the money that comes in and out of the club though stays in there. We have to give them that to be fair.

 

[Blue tube]

Fucking stinks in here, i think there may be some kind of infestation

 

[give it to gordon]

Our club is largely debt free. Our owners don’t take a penny out of the club, there’s plenty of transparent data on it. They make their money out of Liverpool FC by leveraging their value against buying another asset for the Fenway portfolio. Same as the guy who runs a property one. Buy a house, do it up and make it look shiny. Use the value of that to buy somewhere else. The problem we have is that all the extra equity that the club is worth doesn’t get seen by them, it’s FSG’s. All the money that comes in and out of the club though stays in there. We have to give them that to be fair.

Listen I dont give a f**k about your club I dont want to read how wonderful you think your club is just go away and leave us City fans in peace. We get shit from every source of press and media we sure as hell dont want dippers coming onto our site doing the same. I am trying my best not to bite but you are taking up so much space on our forum its hard to avoid you .

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Our club is largely debt free. Our owners don’t take a penny out of the club, there’s plenty of transparent data on it. They make their money out of Liverpool FC by leveraging their value against buying another asset for the Fenway portfolio. Same as the guy who runs a property one. Buy a house, do it up and make it look shiny. Use the value of that to buy somewhere else. The problem we have is that all the extra equity that the club is worth doesn’t get seen by them, it’s FSG’s. All the money that comes in and out of the club though stays in there. We have to give them that to be fair.

"largely"? not everything is about Littlewoods FC, there are other G14 clubs loaded with debt, other clubs(yours included) with owners taking money out of the game into their own pockets. There are also loads of clubs around Europe struggling financially and ffp helps them not one little bit.

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

It’s nothing to do with arrogance, mate. I’ve been getting called out and I’ve said that it’s not the place to discuss things. To be fair, I should have just sent it as a private message to keep it off here and to hopefully put an end to it. And read my posts, I actually have a lot of admiration for the way you do things. Just because I support another team doesn’t mean I can’t respect what another’s doing. And I’ve been pretty clear about RAWK, they’re in no way representative of our real life fans in the same way this doesn’t necessarily represent yours.

I've read your posts, i've a couple of friends that are big Liverpool supporters, both scousers and attend games, you can have a decent chat with them. You may want to talk a bit of football but most of the discussions you are having, are centred round the usual shit that's thrown in our faces. It's boring to be honest, we've heard it all before. This site doesn't necessarily represent my views on all things City, plenty of healthy debate goes on between blues, but i think the feeling of most of us on here and other forums towards Liverpool is fairly consistent. Never used to feel this way, been on the KOP a fair few times as a youth, and thought it was brilliant, but Liverpool went downhill in my eyes from the early 80's

 

[Phil1]

Who the fuck do you think you are?

Ewan mackenna would be my guess.

 

[Bill the Blue]

I have no idea what CB3 is. I assume that’s your ground.

Mine was £730 in 305, mate. Been in 108 and 209 too.

Thanks for letting me know, sorry to hear your Internet connection has been down.. Take it you don't go anymore since you say WAS..

 

[Kegler Super]

I've read your posts, i've a couple of friends that are big Liverpool supporters, both scousers and attend games, you can have a decent chat with them. You may want to talk a bit of football but most of the discussions you are having, are centred round the usual shit that's thrown in our faces. It's boring to be honest, we've heard it all before. This site doesn't necessarily represent my views on all things City, plenty of healthy debate goes on between blues, but i think the feeling of most of us on here and other forums towards Liverpool is fairly consistent. Never used to feel this way, been on the KOP a fair few times as a youth, and thought it was brilliant, but Liverpool went downhill in my eyes from the early 80's

I think there’s a big difference between Internet fans and real life fans. I know plenty of lads who support Everton, United & City and hardly any of them are like their online counterparts. The problem with online discussion is there isn’t the face to face aspect which can be important when putting a point across. I can tell you right now though that RAWK are nothing, nothing at all, like fans who are actually from the area. Sad little try hard ****s trying their best to fit in.

 

[Kegler Super]

Thanks for letting me know, sorry to hear your Internet connection has been down.. Take it you don't go anymore since you say WAS..

I said was as I paid it for in the past.

My next payment will be the Carabao cup game against Arsenal in the Auto Cup scheme. If I work out how to put up a photo, I’ll put the card up in all its glory.

 

[blue aura]

I used to enjoy this thread until the high jacking.