Another new Brexit thread

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Please. Not another day when a vacuum of news on a deal means the thread descends into proxy wars over Scottish independence.
Ha - why so concerned??????

The Remainers have for a long time banged on about how Brexit will cause the break up of the UK and especially that Scotland will leave

Of course - I understand - if we were to discuss based on facts and considered assessment then you are probably worried that this will be proven to be just another scare story that will be proven to be simply invented and lazy bollocks
 
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You are finally getting there. And beginning to understand.

I keep reirerating that never once have i claimed to think/predict to know what the outcome of indyref2 will be. Just that brexit will ensure one, and make independence more likely. I myself have said i dont see enough there to swing it. But i can also see it building quickly post brexit. Enough to swing it? i wouldn't dare guess.

the threatening so called economic case of leaving the EU or starving scotland of options, which you and GH are advocating as an outcome of brexit, will only further drive that appetite. It is naive to think otherwise.
I understand but you are still missing the most important point(s) when you say:

"Just that brexit will ensure one, and make independence more likely. I myself have said i dont see enough there to swing it. But i can also see it building quickly post brexit. Enough to swing it? i wouldn't dare guess."

That is only true about the appetite and passion for leaving - but with regards to whether Scotland actually will vote to leave you are simply going against all objective thinking and logic.

Sorry - there is a clear desire amongst Remainers on here not to discuss the facts / logic - for understandable reasons - they do not like inconvenient truths
 
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I agree. I Do.

But SNP are and have been for the best part of two decades the governing party in scotland, and only seem to be getting stonger. they go beyong a single issue, domestically, although they drive it in Westminster. The likelyhood of them going anywhere is zilch, irrespective of brexit or the next indyref. or the one after.
But in Scotland there is increasing scrutiny on the SNP for their performance on domestic policies beyond independence - they need to start focussing on that performance
 
I understand but you are still missing the most important point(s) when you say:

"Just that brexit will ensure one, and make independence more likely. I myself have said i dont see enough there to swing it. But i can also see it building quickly post brexit. Enough to swing it? i wouldn't dare guess."

That is oinly true about the appetite and passion for leaving - but with regards to whether Scotland actually will vote to leave you are simply going against all objective thinking and logic.

Sorry - there is a clear desire amongst Remainers on here to discuss the facts / logic - for understandable reasons - they do not like inconvenient truths
I hope you are keeping all your BM contributions - I'm looking forward to the book!
 
In Spain the courts are just about to put a Catalan politician away for 15 years for his leading role in organising what the Spanish state saw as an illegal referendum.

Were Nicola Sturgeon to do the same I very much doubt it would end in a prison sentence.

Once again it seems member states of the EU have great freedom in inplementing laws that would not be enacted elsewhere.

Homogenuity I think not.
 
They can do what they like. Their consumers will go elsewhere or other companies will fill the void they left behind. Everyone likes an opportunity.
Ahhhh. I should have read this first. I wouldn’t have bothered asking the previous question.

Thinking customers care whether they’re buying from Doncaster or Derry, enough to stop using them. Fucking lol.

What is it you work as again MB?
 
Ahhhh. I should have read this first. I wouldn’t have bothered asking the previous question.

Thinking customers care whether they’re buying from Doncaster or Derry, enough to stop using them. Fucking lol.

What is it you work as again MB?
Someone earning around £10000 a year, in the retail industry.

Thanks for undermining me ;)

And it was more a point about if people want something enough, they'll pay for it.
 
Someone earning around £10000 a year, in the retail industry.

Thanks for undermining me ;)

And it was more a point about if people want something enough, they'll pay for it.
My point is mainly that people wouldn’t stop buying “British” (UK, not Britain I know) by buying stuff produced in Belfast rather than Bury and 99% of consumers in the UK have no idea where their items are physically produced anyway.

If this deal goes through then it will be the biggest boost to the NI economy as anyone could ever have expected.
 
My point is mainly that people wouldn’t stop buying “British” (UK, not Britain I know) by buying stuff produced in Belfast rather than Bury and 99% of consumers in the UK have no idea where their items are physically produced anyway.

If this deal goes through then it will be the biggest boost to the NI economy as anyone could ever have expected.
No arguments here. I didn't even say anything about customers "caring" where they buy their products from and if they want something badly enough, they'll pay for it regardless of who sells it or from where.
 
I hope you are keeping all your BM contributions - I'm looking forward to the book!

it wont be very long.

'Chapter 1
Bojo made the EU cake their pants by not threatening them with a no-deal which had already effectively been ruled out, and would have hurt the UK far more, but i know how to negotiate because somebody told me that, so that's what it is, fact, fact fact fact.

Chapter 2
Scotland can have a referendum 2024 as 10 years sounds reasonable, but theyl have no choice as we'd have sunk their economy along with ours when we voted to shoot ourselves in the face with brexit, fact fact

the end'
 
good for you. i have felt the effects of brexit. hope you don't. that i do mean genuinely.
Well, we haven't left yet, so...

What exactly are you meant to have "felt", or is this more "emotive" language? FYI, it's wasted on me.
 
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