Var debate 2019/20

Your still missing the point, the REF awarded both goals, so therefore var overturned his decision on the Liverpool goal but backed him on the United goal so var went against Liverpool

I think there's a difference between VAR disallowing for a foul, and disallowing for a handball or offside. The latter two have had goals disallowed this season.

Yesterday, there appeared to be a goal disallowed for a foul by VAR without an onfield review - the first I can remember this season (happy to be corrected).
 
If Mane’s goal had stood, nothing that happened after it would have happened in the way it did as the immediate play after it was a free kick in the United box and not a kick off from the centre spot if the goal had stood.

Everything would have been different. United could have scored from the kick off.

We have no idea if it would have been 1-2 without VAR.
Ok
 
I think there's a difference between VAR disallowing for a foul, and disallowing for a handball or offside. The latter two have had goals disallowed this season.

Yesterday, there appeared to be a goal disallowed for a foul by VAR without an onfield review - the first I can remember this season (happy to be corrected).
Fact is ref allowed both goals var disallowed one and Gave the other, all I hear on here is var is bent and wait until var and the dippers will be fucked, yet today var is great and called all decisions correct, people on here need to make their minds up, either var is corrupt or it is correct
 
I said in the pub, and I stick by it now, that if United’s goal had been disallowed by var I would have given up watching football.

Atkinson was 10 yards away from the incident with Origi, and had an uninterrupted view, so regardless of whether it was a foul or not I have no understanding of why that decision went to var to look at? Complete and utter nonsense.
All goals are checked,you don't know except the close ones that take time because it needs closer checking,the foul was within the build up
 
Is anyone else worried they'll be gifted something against Spurs now, considering the media frenzy no doubt all week over the Rashford goal???
Just like the Pen gift we weren't given yesterday after the media frenzy when Rhodri was fouled in the build-up to the Wolves goal
 
Fact is ref allowed both goals var disallowed one and Gave the other, all I hear on here is var is bent and wait until var and the dippers will be fucked yet today var is great and called all decisions correct, people on here need to make there minds up, either var is corrupt or it is correct

Fully agree with that. It's been a while, but it finally happened to Liverpool today. It may be crap, but it seems to be generally consistent.

Bar the Newcastle handball which the whole lot missed.
Potentially Alli's yesterday - I haven't seen definitive footage of where it hit him.

I think the Burnley disallowed goal yesterday was very dodgy, and not in line with how VAR has worked at any other point. It was re-reffed by VAR, and that's not meant to be how it works.
 
Mane's disallowed goal is a textbook example of a correctly disallowed goal under the new laws. It hit Mane's arm, Mane gained possession of the ball, then scored. Don't confuse it with Laporte's handball, which did not result in him gaining possession or control the ball.
 
Mane's disallowed goal is a textbook example of a correctly disallowed goal under the new laws. It hit Mane's arm, Mane gained possession of the ball, then scored. Don't confuse it with Laporte's handball, which did not result in him gaining possession or control the ball.
No one is confusing that, the fact is we have all been saying it's bent, but now today var is great and calling all.decisions correct . And making all the right calls
 
Mane's disallowed goal is a textbook example of a correctly disallowed goal under the new laws. It hit Mane's arm, Mane gained possession of the ball, then scored. Don't confuse it with Laporte's handball, which did not result in him gaining possession or control the ball.
Indeed. Seems to have been forgotten how Jesus’ goal should have stood as Laporte did not gain control or possession of the ball after it struck his arm.
 
I said in the pub, and I stick by it now, that if United’s goal had been disallowed by var I would have given up watching football.

Atkinson was 10 yards away from the incident with Origi, and had an uninterrupted view, so regardless of whether it was a foul or not I have no understanding of why that decision went to var to look at? Complete and utter nonsense.

Literally said the same had Mané’s goal had stood. That it didn’t restored a little faith in a system that could have helped them yet again.
 
Mane's disallowed goal is a textbook example of a correctly disallowed goal under the new laws. I
Jiminez goal for Wolves disallowed by VAR was very similar to Mane's. The main difference was that the ref then gave the Wolves player a yellow card for an accidental handball!!!
 
Jiminez goal for Wolves disallowed by VAR was very similar to Mane's. The main difference was that the ref then gave the Wolves player a yellow card for an accidental handball!!!
The linesman disallowed the Raul goal, in fact he flagged for handball before the ball hit the net.
 
I think cricket is not a good example as a comparison with football. In cricket, the technology can detect the actual outcome of the event that is being judged. It can tell if the ball was going to hit the stumps or miss. It can freeze the frame at the point the ball hits the wicket. It shows the bat or foot in relation to the crease. It detects the slightest touch of the ball on the bat etc. Football decisions remain subjective, apart from goal line technology, which is flawless.
Disagree. There's lots of subjectivity in cricket decisions for example in judging whether the ball was going to miss the stumps or not in an LBW decusion.
 
Your still missing the point, the REF awarded both goals, so therefore var overturned his decision on the Liverpool goal but backed him on the United goal so var went against Liverpool
You seem to badly missing the point that both var decisions were correct, origi was "touched" then dived, like a diving c**t, the ref played on because he thought he was a diving c**t, var didn't over rule because it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake (ref and var decided he was probably a diving c**t - moral here don't be a diving c**t).

On the other, under current rules (which I don't necessarily agree with), mane handled it accidentally, but as a result "controlled" it, and then scored, and it was disallowed according to current ref guidance, just as we (and others) have had disallowed, so a bit of consistency for a change.
 
So VAR gets it right between the 2 history clubs and it somehow means that it isn’t an agenda against City after all?
Not for me, if Origi goes down like that against City it’s probably given as a foul. And I’m not sure that Mané goal would be disallowed against us either.
Nope, conspiracy theory alive and well here thank you.
 

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