UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

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  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

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    Votes: 65 4.3%

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This is a very interesting development today.

It has emerged during the Ronaldo rape allegations case that Nevada State prosecutors, following investigation into 100 pages and emails, dropped the case because detectives could not be sure the documents published by Football Leaks were not altered.

Ronaldo is represented by Jorge Mendes' Gesfute agency.
 
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This is a very interesting development today.

It has emerged during the Ronaldo rape allegations case that Nevada State prosecutors, following investigation into 100 pages and emails, dropped the case because detectives could not be cure the documents published by Football Leaks were not altered.

Ronaldo is represented by Jorge Mendes' Gesfute agency.

Exactly as I said a few pages ago. Emails which haven't been obtained under strict forensic conditions are entirely unreliable as evidence.

No proper Court or tribunal would ever admit such evidence. I
 
Exactly as I said a few pages ago. Emails which haven't been obtained under strict forensic conditions are entirely unreliable as evidence.

No proper Court or tribunal would ever admit such evidence. I

Exactly.

If you drill down into the nuts and bolts if it, there is also a clear mandate (whether paid for or not) to deliberately target Mendes' Gesfute agency. Same reason we came on to the hacker's radar, as a result of our business done with him.
 
It would seem then that any case against us based on evidence from the same source would be on extremely unsafe grounds if tested in court.
If our CAS referral for dismissal due to UEFA not following their own guidelines fails, UEFA will indeed have an almighty decision to make which if it goes against them will be a) hugely expensive, b) hugely damaging.
As the UEFA upper chamber hasn't even scheduled our case to be heard yet do we believe that they are avoiding the necessary confrontation or hoping it will all just go away and be swept under the carpet as we are about to produce yet another record breaking income total and profit margin.
 
It would seem then that any case against us based on evidence from the same source would be on extremely unsafe grounds if tested in court.
If our CAS referral for dismissal due to UEFA not following their own guidelines fails, UEFA will indeed have an almighty decision to make which if it goes against them will be a) hugely expensive, b) hugely damaging.
As the UEFA upper chamber hasn't even scheduled our case to be heard yet do we believe that they are avoiding the necessary confrontation or hoping it will all just go away and be swept under the carpet as we are about to produce yet another record breaking income total and profit margin.

We aren't even disputing the emails, only the context. That can certainly point towards specific information being omitted or edited for someone else's gain.

I'm still wary that many Blues are under the impression that UEFA are some sort of legitimate legal framework body.

They have already ruled against us. As you say, it's whether they can afford to have their agenda called out in front of a proper court of Law.
 
If say teh alledged investigation is totally unwarranted and UEFA then have legal action taken upon them by our club, would any damages be able to be used towards FFP? :p
 
We aren't even disputing the emails, only the context. That can certainly point towards specific information being omitted or edited for someone else's gain.

I'm still wary that many Blues are under the impression that UEFA are some sort of legitimate legal framework body.

They have already ruled against us. As you say, it's whether they can afford to have their agenda called out in front of a proper court of Law.

The context is what they are contesting because what the emails said we did isnt even prohibited.

UEFA ratified the amount Etihad are allowed to give us that contributes to FFP.

Where Etihad get that money is of no concern of UEFA's, whether its through selling airplane seats or being propped up by its owner.
 
The context is what they are contesting because what the emails said we did isnt even prohibited.

UEFA ratified the amount Etihad are allowed to give us that contributes to FFP.

Where Etihad get that money is of no concern of UEFA's, whether its through selling airplane seats or being propped up by its owner.
It is of concern to UEFA if they can show it's come directly from ADUG. But I doubt they can.

And context is hugely important as the email said ADUG would "arrange" the additional funding, not that they would provide it, which is an important difference.

But even if ADUG did provide the funds, and UEFA could prove that conclusively, they're still allowed to do that as long as it represents market value, and that's completely subjective.
 
If say teh alledged investigation is totally unwarranted and UEFA then have legal action taken upon them by our club, would any damages be able to be used towards FFP? :p
No UEFA would be bankrupt, both financially and morally after the Sheikh and Khaldoon lawyers are finished .
 
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