General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
Meanwhile in other news Harry and Meghan are not spending Christmas with the the Queen the couple have confirmed.
Instead their royal highnesses will spend the holiday this year as a new family with the duchess' mother Doria Ragland.
Election game changer Jeff?

Perfect for the Daily Mail as they get the white Christmas they were hoping for
 
Immigration = racism day again on here I see.

How did that tactic work out for you in the EU ref?

Funny but some of those posters who like to peddle the racism line at every given opportunity on the political threads have completely doubled down on the Bernardo tweet threads*

* = I'm not saying Bernardo is a racist of course, but the double standards displayed by some between these threads and that one are clear for all to see
 
You're imagining that we are trying to convince Conservatives / Lib Dems / Brexit Party to vote Labour. ..... we're not.


We are trying to convince the 14.5 million who didn't vote to register to vote and vote Labour.

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And so far you're not doing a very good job.

People are getting fed up of the hatemongering methods, the attempts to portray the Conservatives as "evil", whilst deflecting and ignoring the problems that Labour has.

Most of tghe time what I hear from those who support Labour is "Vote Labour". "Why?" "Because the Tories are cunts and want to destroy our NHS". Then think it's a good enough argument, case closed, vote assured. Well it isn't. Not for me and not for those millions of undecided/non-voters. Because we know one constant; it doesn't matter who is in power, nothing is going change.
 
You're imagining that we are trying to convince Conservatives / Lib Dems / Brexit Party to vote Labour. ..... we're not.


We are trying to convince the 14.5 million who didn't vote to register to vote and vote Labour.

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That's a shocking number.

A lot of people don't vote under FPTP for rival political parties because "there's no chance they'll win instead of Labour/Tory" but I bet there's plenty of Tory/Labour supporters who don't vote too because they know they've already won the seat.

We're in desperate need of a new electoral system.
 
BBC on new NHS figures. Not good.

Total waiting list for routine surgery now at 4.4 million - highest since records began - 672,112 waiting more than 18 weeks, highest since 2008. A& E units in England recorded lowest ever performance on 4 hour target since modern data collection began in 2004 - 83.6% in Oct - sharply down from 89.1% in Oct 2018. Figures today from England - look like lowest ever hospital performance across the board against key targets, A & E, routine ops and cancer treatment
 
BBC on new NHS figures. Not good.

Total waiting list for routine surgery now at 4.4 million - highest since records began - 672,112 waiting more than 18 weeks, highest since 2008. A& E units in England recorded lowest ever performance on 4 hour target since modern data collection began in 2004 - 83.6% in Oct - sharply down from 89.1% in Oct 2018. Figures today from England - look like lowest ever hospital performance across the board against key targets, A & E, routine ops and cancer treatment
And here ends the party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party. Honestly Bob, day by day you get to sound more and more like Rascal or IfIwasonly...
 
BBC on new NHS figures. Not good.

Total waiting list for routine surgery now at 4.4 million - highest since records began - 672,112 waiting more than 18 weeks, highest since 2008. A& E units in England recorded lowest ever performance on 4 hour target since modern data collection began in 2004 - 83.6% in Oct - sharply down from 89.1% in Oct 2018. Figures today from England - look like lowest ever hospital performance across the board against key targets, A & E, routine ops and cancer treatment

Its not good but the numbers going through the doors and being treated are unbelievable and the issue is a large percentage of those sat in A&E possibly needn't have been there in the first place and that is the same regardless of who the government is.

Education is needed that it is an emergency service, not a one stop shop for the hangover or a small cut on a finger.
 
And here ends the party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party. Honestly Bob, day by day you get to sound more and more like Rascal or IfIwasonly...

It’s from the BBC. The figures were released today. You think we should ignore them?
 
Its not good but the numbers going through the doors and being treated are unbelievable and the issue is a large percentage of those sat in A&E possibly needn't have been there in the first place and that is the same regardless of who the government is.

Education is needed that it is an emergency service, not a one stop shop for the hangover or a small cut on a finger.
And also not forgetting the fact that we'd had 10 years of restrained public spending in order to get the deficit under control. WTF did people expect when they voted for austerity and "tough choices"? Land of milk and honey for all?

We're now through that shit awful period and can start to rebuild again. It really fucks me off how lefties seem to think that splurging limitless amounts of other peoples' money is a marvellous thing and that isn't it marvellous how much Labour spend on public services. ANY DICKHEAD can do that. Doing it sustainably and not leaving the country in an economic crisis, is a bit more challenging and something Labour have NEVER achieved.
 
Its not good but the numbers going through the doors and being treated are unbelievable and the issue is a large percentage of those sat in A&E possibly needn't have been there in the first place and that is the same regardless of who the government is.

Education is needed that it is an emergency service, not a one stop shop for the hangover or a small cut on a finger.
Most people wouldn't misuse A& E if they could get quick appointments with a GP, or nurse at a local surgery. We used to have a local minor injury clinic, now we don't. Down to lack of investment in local services alongside lack of investment in social care leads to pressure on hospitals.
 
Most people wouldn't misuse A& E if they could get quick appointments with a GP, or nurse at a local surgery. We used to have a local minor injury clinic, now we don't. Down to lack of investment in local services alongside lack of investment in social care leads to pressure on hospitals.
See above.
 
That's a shocking number.

A lot of people don't vote under FPTP for rival political parties because "there's no chance they'll win instead of Labour/Tory" but I bet there's plenty of Tory/Labour supporters who don't vote too because they know they've already won the seat.

We're in desperate need of a new electoral system.

most people aren’t that interested in politics. A lot of people will be more interested in voting on I’m a celebrity get me out of here than the election.
 
Most people wouldn't misuse A& E if they could get quick appointments with a GP, or nurse at a local surgery. We used to have a local minor injury clinic, now we don't. Down to lack of investment in local services alongside lack of investment in social care leads to pressure on hospitals.

They would because they dont realise and dont for a second think i should probably just self medicate for my sore back or my headache or my cold sore.

You go to the supermarket for mild pain relief.

You go to the pharmacy for things a bit worrying but certainly not life threatening there and then who can advice and send to the doctor if they feel it the right thing to do.

You go to the doctor if you are really feeling unwell and worried about something.

Finally you go to A&E because you are either in the back of an emergency ambulance or you have a serious injury and can get yourself there under your own steam.

Our emergency services are abused.
 
Its not good but the numbers going through the doors and being treated are unbelievable and the issue is a large percentage of those sat in A&E possibly needn't have been there in the first place and that is the same regardless of who the government is.

Education is needed that it is an emergency service, not a one stop shop for the hangover or a small cut on a finger.

Can’t honestly see the Tories going with ‘The NHS is failing and it’s all the patients fault’ as a campaign slogan but you never know these days. I mean it has potiential. ‘Worried about that lump on your balls? Don’t fret it. Take an aspirin and don’t bother the Doctor’ or ‘Accidentally severed your finger? You never heard of gaffer tape?
 
Can’t honestly see the Tories going with ‘The NHS is failing and it’s all the patients fault’ as a campaign slogan but you never know these days. I mean it has potiential. ‘Worried about that lump on your balls? Don’t fret it. Take an aspirin and don’t bother the Doctor’ or ‘Accidentally severed your finger? You never heard of gaffer tape?

Bit of a silly response that Bob.

I did say regardless of the government and that point stands.

Just ask the doctors and nurses what they think about someone pissed up abusing them or the guy with a headache from the night before taking up their time.
 

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