General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
Comment from BT via Skynews.

BT Spokesperson: “It should be a top political priority to super-charge the roll-out of full fibre broadband and 5G right across the UK so we can build the digital economy of the future. Whatever the result of the election, we’d encourage the next Government to work with all parts of the industry to achieve that. It’s a national mission that’s bigger than any one company.

Agree with this. Connectivity is a national necessity.
You'd agree with a Labour initiative to shoot all children under 3 on the basis it would reduce childcare costs.

You are transparent, Bob. The next time I hear you criticise Labour, I may reconsider, but after 3 years and counting I am not expecting that any time soon.
 
People hanker back the to good old days when the lead time for getting a phone installed was 3 months and you had to rent the phone because it broke every 3 weeks. Ah yes, nationalised bliss.

yeah coz a nationalised BT would use 1960's technology too eh? Silly comment.
 
So it's 40 billion with £238 million a year to maintain it.
That works out at 42.4 billion over 10 years by my math

£860M in wages a year needs to go in and that's as of now, not factoring in wage rises, increased employment as per John McDonnell this morning and it doesnt factor in the workers of other broadband providers that will go bust but that he says will all have jobs in the new company.

This money is being borrowed as well so factor in interest payments on the debt.

Its free so no income either.


edit. Its also against EU competition law to give it away free so how will a Labour government in the EU deliver it?
 
£860M in wages a year needs to go in and that's as of now, not factoring in wage rises, increased employment as per John McDonnell this morning and it doesnt factor in the workers of other broadband providers that will go bust but that he says will all have jobs in the new company.

This money is being borrowed as well so factor in interest payments on the debt.

Its free so no income either.
That's still 30 billion short of 80. Sounds like sky are pulling figures out of their arse
 
People hanker back the to good old days when the lead time for getting a phone installed was 3 months and you had to rent the phone because it broke every 3 weeks. Ah yes, nationalised bliss.
That was fifty years ago, which makes it an utterly wank argument. Almost as wank as BT, in fact.

Fifty years ago, shops used to close on a Sunday and half day on a Wednesday, supply of many good was erratic and unreliable and the girl (as it always was a female) on the checkout had to manually enter the price of each product into the till.

Fuck me, capitalism was wank back then.
 
yeah coz a nationalised BT would use 1960's technology too eh? Silly comment.
At least it's only one silly comment, unlike a sea of unmitigatedly silly thinking for the misguided Labour lefties.

Customer service and investment when communications were nationalised (the GPO) were diabolical. That's the painful and (for you) Inconvenient truth.

And where did the money go on the proceeds of privatisation? To the government to pay for more and better public services, so that YOU didn't have to pay as much as you otherwise would have done. Everyone is a winner. But no, Labour would like to unwind that and make everyone a loser. Genius.
 
Its clear to most that it will never be free and cant be free.

Literally over £80 Billion of cost to nationalise and pay for wages over a 10 year period was pointed out this morning and that's before you factor in the death of many other independent providers and their jobs and all McDonnell could do was say that Google and co will be paying for it.

Come on John, its laughable.
We all know about Google and Amazon, so do the Tories, if it were possible, they'd have been taxed already, everyone wants it,
getting it is nigh on impossible.
 
At least it's only one silly comment, unlike a sea of unmitigatedly silly thinking for the misguided Labour lefties.

Customer service and investment when communications were nationalised (the GPO) were diabolical. That's the painful and (for you) Inconvenient truth.

And where did the money go on the proceeds of privatisation? To the government to pay for more and better public services, so that YOU didn't have to pay as much as you otherwise would have done. Everyone is a winner. But no, Labour would like to unwind that and make everyone a loser. Genius.

ahhh - still airing the old anxieties I see.
 
That's still 30 billion short of 80. Sounds like sky are pulling figures out of their arse

Costs will rise, look at HS2.

EU anti competition laws to get round as well because free broadband against paid services from competitors is against their rules.

How do Labour deliver it if they are in the EU?

This is why Corbyn and co want out of the EU and always have.

Its why those that are all for them yet want to remain are pissing in the wind.
 
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Costs will rise, look at HS2.

EU anti competition laws to get round as well because free broadband against paid services from competitors is against their rules.

How do Labour deliver it if they are in the EU?

This is why Corbyn and co want out of the EU and always have.

Its why those that all all for them yet want to remain are pissing in the wind.

So it's not 80 billion? Correct?
 
That was fifty years ago, which makes it an utterly wank argument. Almost as wank as BT, in fact.

Fifty years ago, shops used to close on a Sunday and half day on a Wednesday, supply of many good was erratic and unreliable and the girl (as it always was a female) on the checkout had to manually enter the price of each product into the till.

Fuck me, capitalism was wank back then.

Seems odd Corbyn wants to take us back there then, doesn't it. But not when you realise that he really doesn't give a toss about people's standards of living or of silly things like customer service. Just so long as the state owns more and more, and we mover closer to his Marxist utopia where everyone is equal, equal owning fuck all.
 
You'd agree with a Labour initiative to shoot all children under 3 on the basis it would reduce childcare costs.

You are transparent, Bob. The next time I hear you criticise Labour, I may reconsider, but after 3 years and counting I am not expecting that any time soon.

I was quoting a BT spokesperson on the need for full broadband connectivity across the UK. I think it’s vital we have this and that we don’t have areas or communities cut off from the electronic economy. Can I ask what the Tory initiative is? Seem to recall Johnson promising full broadband connectivity by 2025. Any details on this?
 
Costs will rise, look at HS2.

EU anti competition laws to get round as well because free broadband against paid services from competitors is against their rules.

How do Labour deliver it if they are in the EU?

This is why Corbyn and co want out of the EU and always have.

Its why those that are all for them yet want to remain are pissing in the wind.
EU state aid rules do not prevent nationalisation.
Thank you.
 
So it's not 80 billion? Correct?

Who knows the final figure but it isn't £20 Billion either is it?

EU anti competition laws?

How do they get round them if we are in the EU as per Labour party second ref policy or a deal they negotiate to stay in?
 
Just had call back from 5Live responding to my text asking if I wanted to speak on the show. Bottled it. Hang my head in shame (:
 
Who knows the final figure but it isn't £20 Billion either is it?

EU anti competition laws?

How do they get round them if we are in the EU as per Labour party second ref policy or a deal they negotiate to stay in?

You claimed it would cost £80 billion, I have refuted that figure and we've fact checked it together to realise it's B.S mate.

Your response is to then bring brexit up as some weird self defense mechanism?
 
And there you have it. Progressive Labour thinking from the 1960's. Carry on making shit at a loss, pouring endless taxpayers money down the pan.

Arthur Scargill would be proud.


And there you have it.... total lack of thought about the bigger picture.

As we have now lost control of all methods of steel production in the UK .... How would we get on in the event of another war? you know where we have to build and maintain tanks / ships / Planes / trains and vehicles?

When the Chinese have changed all the passwords and gone home.

Short term thinking again .... it is vital for the nations security that the UK retains some element of steel production but hey ££££££££££££££££££££
 

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