General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Bluemanc100]

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[Bluemanc100]

Lump on what? I don't for one minute think Labour will win but JC might just be pm. Unfotunately putting a tenner on that won't make me very rich.

Did you know Bob Hope too??

 

[Chippy_boy]

Lump on what? I don't for one minute think Labour will win but JC might just be pm. Unfotunately putting a tenner on that won't make me very rich.

You certainly won't be getting rich if Marxist Corbyn becomes PM, with that EVERYONE can agree.

Show me the Labour policies which will help businesses succeed and help any entrepreneurs sell more goods and services, grow their businesses, hire more people and become rich in doing so.

 

[Chippy_boy]

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You can add in,

Your not minding him supporting the IRA
Your not minding him having secret meetings with communist spies
Your not being Jewish, or knowing anyone who is
Your belief that all our military generals are wrong and Jeremy knows best
Your parents don't own their own house

 

[bluejon]

You certainly won't be getting rich if Marxist Corbyn becomes PM, with that EVERYONE can agree.

Show me the Labour policies which will help businesses succeed and help any entrepreneurs sell more goods and services, grow their businesses, hire more people and become rich in doing so.

We've had 10 years of the tory party giving everything to capital at the expense of the rest of us being screwed over. I'd like to see the rich being taxed more. The country is in a fucking state and they have the money to pay for it. They want to leave, they can, otherwise cough up. They've had everything their own way for too long now and the levels of inequality are getting dangerous (I am not talking about middle class wealth, I am talking about top 10% wealth).

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

There's difference between 150+ one click votes to the 20-30 contributors on here.

But these results might just send a little warning to those that believe the Cons will walk this election that:
1- 16m voted remain
2- whilst Corbyn might not be popular many of his policies are and for millions on the breadline he is the only one that offers hope
3- 560,000 members - the biggest party membership in Europe - will bring the greatest ground game ever seen in the UK
4- We're already seeing huge swathes of 18-24 year olds registering to vote in record numbers, a theme continued from 2017


There's gonna be a huge surprise in this GE to many people and it's not going to be a big Tory majority.

yeah I have just seen his speech making it into a class war.

it’s been the same since he took over . He could not give a fucking shit about the people of Wigan, Oldham Warrington. Not one shit.

it’s the same old labour. When there is no election they spend their time debating and fighting for the rights of the gender transitioning transvestite who lives in Islington. They don’t come out of London. They sit and debate like a left wing ideological bubble and saying after they have debated about how shocking the forgotten people are they say , “oh yes me and my partner are going seeing Eddie izzard tonight and then giving that new Peruvian restaurant a go in shoreditch”

there are millions of people particularly in the forgotten north of England who really have little voice or representation. Scotland , Wales Northern Ireland all have a political voice and people speaking for them

In England , outside of of the south east there is no voice for normal people, nobody gives a shit about them until an election. Then we see them all coming up to the Northern towns pretending they give a shit , but really just knowing there are millions of people who have always voted labour all their life and continue to do so and if it means I only have to visit Wigan every 5 years then it’s worth it.

They don’t care about the people of the north’s views on brexit, immigration , local schools or hospitals or their shitty high street that can’t even support a kfc anymore. They just want their vote.

the saddest of this are the people who fall for this bollox and say they have voted labour all their life and always will do so.

Well vote labour as you have done all your life, but you won’t see McDonnell , Corbyn or Abbott for another 5 years and they will sit in their bubble in London pursuing their ideological dream.

 

[johnnytapia]

You certainly won't be getting rich if Marxist Corbyn becomes PM, with that EVERYONE can agree.

Show me the Labour policies which will help businesses succeed and help any entrepreneurs sell more goods and services, grow their businesses, hire more people and become rich in doing so.

They're going to stop the badger cull. And recognise the state of Palestine. Top of everyone's agenda surely?

 

[Chippy_boy]

We've had 10 years of the tory party giving everything to capital at the expense of the rest of us being screwed over. I'd like to see the rich being taxed more. The country is in a fucking state and they have the money to pay for it. They want to leave, they can, otherwise cough up. They've had everything their own way for too long now and the levels of inequality are getting dangerous (I am not talking about middle class wealth, I am talking about top 10% wealth).

That's your perspective and you're entitled to it. I think having to hand over 47% of everything you earn, which in some cases is millions of pounds a year, when many people contribute virtually (or actually) fuck all, is tax enough.

 

[che_don_john]

I think tactical voting is going to be the key to resolving this crisis; otherwise, a small Convervative majority is likely (even with the Brexit party splitting the Brexit vote, it's still only a two-way split), as opposed to a 3 or some cases 4-way split amongst Remain voters.

I was talking to my Dad about it last night. He has pretty much always voted Conservative and also voted for Brexit; he told me he will vote for Lib Dem because he has huge regrets and wants Article 50 revoked. Lib Dems are the only viable challenge to Nadine Dorrie's safe seat where he lives. I believe there are many other 'Regrexiteers' who could have a huge say in this election - IF they vote tactically.

Personally I don't agree with this election at all. Elections should be about broader issues, not single issues; this election is soley about Brexit and that feels wrong. But we're kind of in this situation because the Remain movement is, on a governance and autority level at least, an absolute shambles (the people-led movement is fantastic and suspiciously played down in the media). The Remain camapign during the refrendum was, frankly, shit, and now the parties are still squabling amongst themselves. If they just got their shit togtehr and collaborated I think we could get ourselves out of this mess through a second refrendum and without the need for another GE.

 

[Chippy_boy]

yeah I have just seen his speech making it into a class war.

it’s been the same since he took over . He could not give a fucking shit about the people of Wigan, Oldham Warrington. Not one shit.

it’s the same old labour. When there is no election they spend their time debating and fighting for the rights of the gender transitioning transvestite who lives in Islington. They don’t come out of London. They sit and debate like a left wing ideological bubble and saying after they have debated about how shocking the forgotten people are they say , “oh yes me and my partner are going seeing Eddie izzard tonight and then giving that new Peruvian restaurant a go in shoreditch”

there are millions of people particularly in the forgotten north of England who really have little voice or representation. Scotland , Wales Northern Ireland all have a political voice and people speaking for them

In England , outside of of the south east there is no voice for normal people, nobody gives a shit about them until an election. Then we see them all coming up to the Northern towns pretending they give a shit , but really just knowing there are millions of people who have always voted labour all their life and continue to do so and if it means I only have to visit Wigan every 5 years then it’s worth it.

They don’t care about the people of the north’s views on brexit, immigration , local schools or hospitals or their shitty high street that can’t even support a kfc anymore. They just want their vote.

the saddest of this are the people who fall for this bollox and say they have voted labour all their life and always will do so.

Well vote labour as you have done all your life, but you won’t see McDonnell , Corbyn or Abbott for another 5 years and they will sit in their bubble in London pursuing their ideological dream.

The supreme irony is the last person of power and influence who actually cared and wanted to do something to help the north was George Osborne. And look at the "esteem" in which these Labour voters hold him!