General Election - December 12th, 2019

[inbetween]

Its the Conservative way.... they can only produce legislation that punishes people... like their announcement yesterday the people found carrying knives would find themselves in court three times faster than it usually takes, Police given additional stop and search powers etc etc

Lets do everything but fund youth clubs , libraries , mental health , police etc etc

I'm sorry but this is a pathetic excuse.

If the lack of youth clubs or libraries was a problem then hundreds of thousands of kids would be out stabbing each other but they aren't.

When I was young I went out with my friends to the pub, cinema, bowling, shops... We didn't have youth clubs either and I just about managed not to stab anyone.

It all comes down to the upbringing and it shouldn't be needed to keep kids busy in a youth club so that they won't run riot stabbing each other.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Body language experts recommend it over pointing

Well ta, I never knew that, still looks like a stupid affectation to me.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The Nasty Bastards Party.

Unfortunately you have a vote, poor, downtrodden person.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I'm sorry but this is a pathetic excuse.

If the lack of youth clubs or libraries was a problem then hundreds of thousands of kids would be out stabbing each other but they aren't.

When I was young I went out with my friends to the pub, cinema, bowling, shops... We didn't have youth clubs either and I just about managed not to stab anyone.

It all comes down to the upbringing and it shouldn't be needed to keep kids busy in a youth club so that they won't run riot stabbing each other.

I am sure all he kids would put down their weapons if a new library was built in the area.

 

[Metal Biker]

Listening to Saj now, why do ALL politicians use that daft hand gesture, with their thumb on top of the index finger
pointing at the interviewer? Blair was the first at it, but they're all doing now.

to emphasise the "point"?

sorry

 

[journolud]

So its all down to the lack of youth clubs or its all down to upbringing. No shades of grey?

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

So its all down to the lack of youth clubs or its all down to upbringing. No shades of grey?

shades of grey left with the internet .

you are either

a communist or a facist

All arguments are dominated by the extremes

 

[George Hannah]

I am sure all he kids would put down their weapons if a new library was built in the area.

Our youth's stabbing sub-culture is partly a product of the entertainment industry, of which libraries were formerly a significant component although obviously not now.

 

[journolud]

shades of grey left with the internet .

you are either

a communist or a facist

All arguments are dominated by the extremes

Makes debate and discussion so much easier though don't you think?

 

[Turks Head Again]

YCNMIU
Labour are to launch their manifesto in Birmingham today.
On the 45th anniversary of the pub bombings which killed 21 innocent people.
Given Corbyn's links to the IRA I find this an either very naive or extremely stupid move.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Makes debate and discussion so much easier though don't you think?

well sometimes funnier on here when there is a ding dong. The reality most people are moderates but don’t bother with political forums or political debate.

those who are Twitter or on here have a genuine interest in politics and often have a passion so strong it’s like an affinity to a football club. They won’t change no matter what their side put out.

 

[George Hannah]

YCNMIU
Labour are to launch their manifesto in Birmingham today.
On the 45th anniversary of the pub bombings which killed 21 innocent people.
Given Corbyn's links to the IRA I find this an either very naive or extremely stupid move.

Made his career out of those events

 

[blueparrot]

YCNMIU
Labour are to launch their manifesto in Birmingham today.
On the 45th anniversary of the pub bombings which killed 21 innocent people.
Given Corbyn's links to the IRA I find this an either very naive or extremely stupid move.

I just find it a case of digging deep for a fault and finding one, is a 45th anniversary a thing ?

 

[stonerblue]

BoJo caught out lying again on lifting the NI ceiling .
Says it will benefit tax payers by £500pa initially.
Not true.
The initial hike benefits everyone by £85pa.
The AMBITION target to raise the ceiling to 12k results in the full £500 benefit.
Andrew Neill roasting Brandon Lewis on this today.
It was embarrasing.

The Diane Abbott school of economics ?

 

[blueinsa]

Made his career out of those events

Incredibly accurate in that he and those that support him are all about defeating Blairism and not winning an election.

For the ideologically pure, not the many.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Incredibly accurate in that he and those that support him are all about defeating Blairism and not winning an election.

For the ideologically pure, not the many.

Maybe it's been doing the rounds, but heard it for the first time yesterday, "For the many not the Jew".

The JC didn't seem particularly impressed with Corbyn's claims in the head to head debate:

'This is a lie' - Jeremy Corbyn prompts angry backlash within Labour over antisemitism claim
The Labour leader said during TV debate with Boris Johnson that his party had 'investigated every single case' of Jew-hate.

"We have submitted details to the EHRC of thousands of cases left unresolved. Cases where grossly antisemitic behaviour was excused, and details of the worst political manipulation of a system by those running the party.

"And all for what? How has this festering anti-Jewish racism, the inaction, the lies & the cover ups, ever helped the party in any way? This is a disgraceful episode in the long and proud history of the Labour Party. He should be ashamed of himself.”

 

[urban genie]

Well ta, I never knew that, still looks like a stupid affectation to me.

I agree

 

[urban genie]

YCNMIU
Labour are to launch their manifesto in Birmingham today.
On the 45th anniversary of the pub bombings which killed 21 innocent people.
Given Corbyn's links to the IRA I find this an either very naive or extremely stupid move.

Or you would have to be some sad person to have even looked it up or thought about it.

 

[joe123]

I'm sorry but this is a pathetic excuse.

If the lack of youth clubs or libraries was a problem then hundreds of thousands of kids would be out stabbing each other but they aren't.

When I was young I went out with my friends to the pub, cinema, bowling, shops... We didn't have youth clubs either and I just about managed not to stab anyone.

It all comes down to the upbringing and it shouldn't be needed to keep kids busy in a youth club so that they won't run riot stabbing each other.

Erm, this is the point. There are loads of kids who have a shit upbringing and might benefit from investment in schemes designed to give them another outlet. Not everyone is as lucky as you and get the chance to bowling or shopping on the high street each week. Which is where these stabbings happen funnily enough.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

YCNMIU
Labour are to launch their manifesto in Birmingham today.
On the 45th anniversary of the pub bombings which killed 21 innocent people.
Given Corbyn's links to the IRA I find this an either very naive or extremely stupid move.

What links with the IRA?

Do you mean the condemnation of IRA violence on the 29th Nov 1994
Or did you mean to say his links with the Loyalists after meeting with David Irvine five times in the same year?
Or the advanced warning he gave to the UK police of a Provisional IRA operative in Feb 1987 (as reported in the Times)
Or the praise that Ian Paisley gave Corbyn as reported by his wife in an interview in the Belfast Telegraph in Oct 2015.

It cant be about his links with Gerry Adams because he didn't meet with him until after Adams became an elected MP in 1983.

Possibly you mean the early work he did under Mo Mowlem as a precursor to the Good Friday Agreement?

Or is it because he campaigned for the Guildford Four (he was right about that one) and campaigned for action about Bloody Sunday (he was right about that one as well)


Please elucidate ...... What links to the IRA?