New City Pub To Open Inside the Stadium

eyalluvitt said:
The Alderley Edge would be more apt than The Ardwick these days
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I’m alright jack

I don’t think anyone has said it should be free. And most if not the majority won’t be going as it’s mainly for corporates.

If you can’t see why people don’t like this/ aren’t bothered by it then I’m sure you can afford it.

Lots of fans in general already feel alienated by clubs. Tunnel club, ever increasing corporate sections and a club at times completely out of sync with its core fans base don’t help. Things like this are another example of that. It’s all about rinsing the fans and catering to corporates
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How does it affect you?

Food and drink concessions, betting kiosks, commonwealth club, programmes etc all designed to take money from fans, but doesn't mean you have to participate.

What I would object to is areas of the ground previously devoted to fans being upgraded into corporate. If people can afford to give their money to City - let them do so. No skin off the nose of those who can't unless seating starts to change i.e, more corporate areas in the ground at the expense of fans. If you look at City's ground expansion plans, City added the South stand tier and filled in with cheap season tickets, and the North Stand plans sound similar.
 
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I suppose if you are willing to pay £2,000 per year just for admission, you are oblivious to also paying £10 for the 'Manchester Madras'.

What planet are some people living on, not just the 'suits' who come up with this shit?

I'm talking Blues who will pay to such an extent, to essentially remove themselves from mixing with the majority of their fellow supporters.

Even if I was a billionaire, I would still know the value of a pound.

Probably more so!
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I suppose if you are willing to pay £2,000 per year just for admission, you are oblivious to also paying £10 for the 'Manchester Madras'.

What planet are some people living on, not just the 'suits' who come up with this shit?

I'm talking Blues who will pay to such an extent, to essentially remove themselves from mixing with the majority of their fellow supporters.

Even if I was a billionaire, I would still know the value of a pound.

Probably more so!
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But you are a millionaire?
 
It's simple, the club has to find more ways of raising revenue every season, that or stand still and stagnate. Would the 'purist' prefer the club to jack up seat prices each season and keep the club pure?
 
Blue Llama said:
It's simple, the club has to find more ways of raising revenue every season, that or stand still and stagnate. Would the 'purist' prefer the club to jack up seat prices each season and keep the club pure?
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But the club is jacking up seat prices and matchday revenue has fallen from £56.6m in 2018 to £55m (although that's due to accounting changes rather than a fall in actual income). On a like-for-like basis it would have been £58.2m for 2019, an increase of £1.6m. Given that we were in an FA Cup final in 2019, compared to 2018, that probably represents a like-for-like fall of around £1m. That means the price rises last summer either haven't fed through or they have and we've lost money in other areas.

Whatever anyone thinks, we can't turn the clock back and hospitality is an essential element in the revenue mix these days. United get something like 60% of their matchday revenue from this source and I can't imagine that the numbers using these facilities amount to more than 12.5% of overall matchday attendees. I suspect that we're struggling with the higher-end hospitality offerings (Legends, Chairman's Club, etc). I don't think the club are getting the sort of yield from these it would like and that they're having to give away margin to attract custom. The more casual, pie-and-a-pint hospitality offerings seem to be doing well though. If we get 100 people in this new Ardwick suite, that could make up for 25 people we don't get in the Chairman's Club.

I was in the Family Stand Level 2 for the CL & Southampton League Cup games and at one I noticed that the majority of the executive boxes in the East Stand were unoccupied. I asked the club about this and they said these were all largely paid for but not used. I think the same principle should apply to these as to season tickets in that if they're not used enough we should close them down and turn them into open facilities like the Commonwealth Suite and this new Ardwick Pub.
 
Marvin said:
How does it affect you?

Food and drink concessions, betting kiosks, commonwealth club, programmes etc all designed to take money from fans, but doesn't mean you have to participate.

What I would object to is areas of the ground previously devoted to fans being upgraded into corporate. If people can afford to give their money to City - let them do so. No skin off the nose of those who can't unless seating starts to change i.e, more corporate areas in the ground at the expense of fans. If you look at City's ground expansion plans, City added the South stand tier and filled in with cheap season tickets, and the North Stand plans sound similar.
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So if it doesn’t directly effect you, you can’t have an opinion on it?? The tunnel club didn’t directly effect me, but I still don’t like it and recognise many others were completely shafted in that area of the ground.

I’d also say a lot of it I can’t participate In because I can’t afford to - like thousands of others

Match day tickets have gone up to ridiculous levels, season ticket prices have gone up in most areas of the grounds. Putting some cheap seats away and out of sight doesn’t change what the club is doing.

The vast majority of things the club are doing are catered towards corporates and rinsing the fans. It’s not right. Keep alienating our core fan base though and More and more of us will stop going

Also As others have said we do not have the corporate fan base - lots of the corporate areas are empty most games
 
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The couple of times I've done Legends and the one time I've done the Mancunian the people in there seemed like normal families or groups of fans treating themselves to a special experience for a special occasion, such as Dad's 60th birthday or something like that.

I didn't notice any "corporate" suits or Gordon Gecko tycoon types but maybe I didn't look hard enough.
 
NeilYoungIsBack said:
The couple of times I've done Legends and the one time I've done the Mancunian the people in there seemed like normal families or groups of fans treating themselves to a special experience for a special occasion, such as Dad's 60th birthday or something like that.

I didn't notice any "corporate" suits or Gordon Gecko tycoon types but maybe I didn't look hard enough.
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The pub looks great but its sad that the only time most ordinary fans will set foot in the place is on a stadium tour.

I went to the NFL at Spurs stadium a few months ago and the facilities there are incredible. Its got its own Beavertown microbrewery on site, the longest bar in Europe (apparently) and loads of food options which are accessible for all fans. I have to say it is impressive. It'll be interesting to see if City or other clubs look to replicate.

I don't know if it would be feasible with planning permission etc but if City replaced the Summerbee bar with a much bigger, permanent fan pub I'm sure it would popular. It would certainly make the match going fans feel more connected to the club than a pub in some fancy corporate area of the stadium they're never going to get to enjoy.
 
Bellamy's Caddy said:
The pub looks great but its sad that the only time most ordinary fans will set foot in the place is on a stadium tour.

I went to the NFL at Spurs stadium a few months ago and the facilities there are incredible. Its got its own Beavertown microbrewery on site, the longest bar in Europe (apparently) and loads of food options which are accessible for all fans. I have to say it is impressive. It'll be interesting to see if City or other clubs look to replicate.

I don't know if it would be feasible with planning permission etc but if City replaced the Summerbee bar with a much bigger, permanent fan pub I'm sure it would popular. It would certainly make the match going fans feel more connected to the club than a pub in some fancy corporate area of the stadium they're never going to get to enjoy.
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Would be nice if a pub was actually built on land outside and big enough to accomodate a fair few fans
 
Bellamy's Caddy said:
The pub looks great but its sad that the only time most ordinary fans will set foot in the place is on a stadium tour.

I went to the NFL at Spurs stadium a few months ago and the facilities there are incredible. Its got its own Beavertown microbrewery on site, the longest bar in Europe (apparently) and loads of food options which are accessible for all fans. I have to say it is impressive. It'll be interesting to see if City or other clubs look to replicate.

I don't know if it would be feasible with planning permission etc but if City replaced the Summerbee bar with a much bigger, permanent fan pub I'm sure it would popular. It would certainly make the match going fans feel more connected to the club than a pub in some fancy corporate area of the stadium they're never going to get to enjoy.
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Genuine question saw all this stuff at spurs ground last season thought to myself impressive but not something I would use myself, would you use any of it if we went all spursey?
 
Didn't realise it was special admission only, bit of a fucking stupid decision! Maybe they'll open it to ST holders after a few empty games?
 
urban genie said:
Would be nice if a pub was actually built on land outside and big enough to accomodate a fair few fans
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I'll be honest I hardly ever go to City square for pre match. There's some nice pubs in Ancoats so I usually go there if I'm having a few drinks. If we had something like you've described I'd happily head there most weeks.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
Genuine question saw all this stuff at spurs ground last season thought to myself impressive but not something I would use myself, would you use any of it if we went all spursey?
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I would mate. The last time I got a burger in the ground at City they told me it would be five minutes and had me waiting for 15. I haven't bothered since!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I was in the Family Stand Level 2 for the CL & Southampton League Cup games and at one I noticed that the majority of the executive boxes in the East Stand were unoccupied. I asked the club about this and they said these were all largely paid for but not used. I think the same principle should apply to these as to season tickets in that if they're not used enough we should close them down and turn them into open facilities like the Commonwealth Suite and this new Ardwick Pub.
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"Open" facilities that are restricted to 80 or so rich fans?
 
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