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Kalidou Koulibaly
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I dont see one of the top 3 defenders in the world as short term especially as hes now st his peak. That's good sense.
And the market is already gone. We can sit on our hands and stick with john fucking stones the peaky blinder and otamendi or flex the muscle we have and make a big fucking statement. I'd personally rather see both garcia and hwb both get promoted to first team as imo they are both better than what we are currently playing irrespective of age but pep has proven that's not going to happen so the flipside of the coin is if koulibaly is available we simply must get him.
This.
We aren't buying. Our foreign quota is full, we can't move anybody out in January.
No CL this season then.
Pretty sure I know some Germans who would take a soon to be out of contract winger off our hands...We aren't buying. Our foreign quota is full, we can't move anybody out in January.
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Plenty of chance to shift a foreign spot in Jan, plus of course we can just leave someone out of the 17 if necessary.We aren't buying. Our foreign quota is full, we can't move anybody out in January.
If Koulibaly is gettable, and De Laurentis talks reality money, then I hope to god we get the deal done.
If we can find a way to get the best centerback in the world on our team I'm also confident we can find a way to loan Otamendi to Valencia or something.Plenty of chance to shift a foreign spot in Jan, plus of course we can just leave someone out of the 17 if necessary.
If Koulibaly is gettable, and De Laurentis talks reality money, then I hope to god we get the deal done.
No CL this season then.
This. We can forget about CL altogether if we don't strengthen with a CB in January. But we can't go and 'do a Jonny Evans' or Alderweireld, it has to be a player for the future and not short-term. I'd rather wait until the summer of 2020 before adding more dead weight to this club. There is no doubt about Koulibaly's quality. He is as close as you get to Laporte and Van Dijk. But for me he is too old. He will be 29 next June. We should aim for a 25-year old, no more. I want a long-term partner for Laporte, and he is only 25. Cancelo 25 (born on the same day as Laporte), and Mendy 25. I thought Stones was our future (also 25), but nope.
This. We can forget about CL altogether if we don't strengthen with a CB in January. But we can't go and 'do a Jonny Evans' or Alderweireld, it has to be a player for the future and not short-term. I'd rather wait until the summer of 2020 before adding more dead weight to this club. There is no doubt about Koulibaly's quality. He is as close as you get to Laporte and Van Dijk. But for me he is too old. He will be 29 next June. We should aim for a 25-year old, no more. I want a long-term partner for Laporte, and he is only 25. Cancelo 25 (born on the same day as Laporte), and Mendy 25. I thought Stones was our future (also 25), but nope.
Koulibaly will only be 29 when Laporte, Cancelo and Mendy are 26. He's 3 years older, it's really not a big deal.
He could play next to them for the next 4/5 seasons easily, and that's long term in football these days. By then Eric Garcia and THB will be 23 so maybe we don't even need to spend big to replace.
There are no world class 25 year old CB's on the market.
Wow, Cancelo and Laporte have exactly the same birthday? Thats kind of amazing.This. We can forget about CL altogether if we don't strengthen with a CB in January. But we can't go and 'do a Jonny Evans' or Alderweireld, it has to be a player for the future and not short-term. I'd rather wait until the summer of 2020 before adding more dead weight to this club. There is no doubt about Koulibaly's quality. He is as close as you get to Laporte and Van Dijk. But for me he is too old. He will be 29 next June. We should aim for a 25-year old, no more. I want a long-term partner for Laporte, and he is only 25. Cancelo 25 (born on the same day as Laporte), and Mendy 25. I thought Stones was our future (also 25), but nope.
Koulibaly will only be 29 when Laporte, Cancelo and Mendy are 26. He's 3 years older, it's really not a big deal.
He could play next to them for the next 4/5 seasons easily, and that's long term in football these days.
You might be right. Having Laporte and Koulibaly as our centreback pair for the upcoming 4-5 years should generate atleast one CL trophy. Would be one of the best in the world.
This is the missing piece really. Foden/Bernardo/KDB/Rodri/Ferna is considered one of the best midfields on the planet, and our attack is one of the most goal scoring happy in Europe. A world class defense is the only thing missing.
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Plenty of chance to shift a foreign spot in Jan, plus of course we can just leave someone out of the 17 if necessary.
If Koulibaly is gettable, and De Laurentis talks reality money, then I hope to god we get the deal done.
If he wants €105m then slap the money on the table. If sane does go for €90m+ then it's more of a no brainer
without a world class CB next to Laporte. We arent winning the CL. The PL sailed a while ago now. Itll be silly for us not to upgrade in January. This season might as well be binned. Id be pissed if its February and we didnt upgrade.
Although I think he is an absolute beast, I struggle to see we would pay these kind of money and for a soon-to-be 29 year old. It's not the kind of business we do. I know the age is not much, he could be fit for another 3-5 years. But one of the best CBs in the last decade (Sergio Ramos) is 33 today and has been on decline the past two years. So I wouldn't assume Koulibaly to stay at the top level another five years.
I would be super happy if he came, obviously, but I think Skriniar could be an even better option. 4 years younger (24), tall as Koulibaly, and he is definitely top quality.
We'll see what happens but there are only two January options really: Skriniar and this guy. Ruben Dias is taking a risk, and we don't want another John Stones. Nathan Ake, I pray we don't buy him.
I would be super happy if he came, obviously, but I think Skriniar could be an even better option. 4 years younger (24), tall as Koulibaly, and he is definitely top quality.
We'll see what happens but there are only two January options really: Skriniar and this guy. Ruben Dias is taking a risk, and we don't want another John Stones. Nathan Ake, I pray we don't buy him.
Wow, Cancelo and Laporte have exactly the same birthday? Thats kind of amazing.
Have you heard of the birthday problem?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem
In a group of 23 people, the chances of 2 people sharing the same birthday is 50%. For a football squad of 30 players it's about 60%.
That doesnt account for years, but given our squad is only going to be made up of 18-35 year olds, it's a restricted range, so I would estimate there's about a 3.5% chance of 2 people having the same birthday and same year.
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Sort of took the air out with that one.Have you heard of the birthday problem?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem
In a group of 23 people, the chances of 2 people sharing the same birthday is 50%. For a football squad of 30 players it's about 60%.
That doesnt account for years, but given our squad is only going to be made up of 18-35 year olds, it's a restricted range, so I would estimate there's about a 3.5% chance of 2 people having the same birthday and same year.
Sort of took the air out with that one.
Sorry.
Although I think he is an absolute beast, I struggle to see we would pay these kind of money and for a soon-to-be 29 year old. It's not the kind of business we do. I know the age is not much, he could be fit for another 3-5 years. But one of the best CBs in the last decade (Sergio Ramos) is 33 today and has been on decline the past two years. So I wouldn't assume Koulibaly to stay at the top level another five years.
I would be super happy if he came, obviously, but I think Skriniar could be an even better option. 4 years younger (24), tall as Koulibaly, and he is definitely top quality.
We'll see what happens but there are only two January options really: Skriniar and this guy. Ruben Dias is taking a risk, and we don't want another John Stones. Nathan Ake, I pray we don't buy him.
Yep. It's hard to come by centre halves these days but he isn't the only one out there either.
We don't need to panic, our calm and decisive transfer strategy works, despite our current season - no need to do away with it because of the flaps of a few supporters. Laporte coming back will ease it quite a bit me thinks.
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This team has been without a dynamic true defensive presence for years. We have gotten by but it has been a weak point from the full backs to center backs. Our offense has made up for our shortcomings. Mangala was a bust, Stones was a hopeful signing but simply is not making the grade. Otamendi has had good showings and honestly I've liked him but he is not reliable and his mistakes have been disastrous. Laporte is clearly our best defensive get in recent memory and will pay dividends moving forward but he needs a competent presence next to him. We can't hope for Garcia or THB to be ready anytime soon as they won't be. We can't gamble on prospects who might be the next big name. If we have the chance to purchase a bonafide CB now who will be at that level for 3 to 5 years we should put the money on the table. We see the consequences of not covering for Kompany's departure and he was well past being first choice when he moved on.Yep. It's hard to come by centre halves these days but he isn't the only one out there either.
We don't need to panic, our calm and decisive transfer strategy works, despite our current season - no need to do away with it because of the flaps of a few supporters. Laporte coming back will ease it quite a bit me thinks.
If we settle, we'll pay the price.
This team has been without a dynamic true defensive presence for years. We have gotten by but it has been a weak point from the full backs to center backs. Our offense has made up for our shortcomings. Mangala was a bust, Stones was a hopeful signing but simply is not making the grade. Otamendi has had good showings and honestly I've liked him but he is not reliable and his mistakes have been disastrous. Laporte is clearly our best defensive get in recent memory and will pay dividends moving forward but he needs a competent presence next to him. We can't hope for Garcia or THB to be ready anytime soon as they won't be. We can't gamble on prospects who might be the next big name. If we have the chance to purchase a bonafide CB now who will be at that level for 3 to 5 years we should put the money on the table. We see the consequences of not covering for Kompany's departure and he was well past being first choice when he moved on.
If we settle, we'll pay the price.
Yes, and the price would be missing out on the CL-trophy to (probably) Liverpool yet again. One thing is certain, we need either Koulibaly or Skriniar to win UCL in 2020. Forget about Stones and Otamendi.