While Cancel was expensive, it's hard not to see he has an effect on Walker's play.Zinchenko should either leave or be a rotation in midfield. I'm amazed we dont try him in the dm position. Seems to have all the qualities needed apart from height but hes a scrapper. We cant afford to have gundogan and zinchenko playing out of position. Either 1 should be dedicated position or move on. Cancelo was a crazy buy for us because frimpong who moved to celtic could easily of backed up Walker.
Genuinely how often have you seen Upamecano play 90 minutes? Look at the sheer size of the man, he's far too big and bulky physically to play in a high line, there's no way a man of that size he has the agility or acceleration over short distances we need in that position. If he somehow miraculously does, he's as good as guaranteed knee injuries (e.g. Micah, Kompany) long term.If we’re not on that, we’re idiots. Him and Werner together would be gettable for the price of Ake, and would be top additions to where we need strengthening.
Upamecano and Laporte could be our fixed CB pairing for the next 5 years. Apparently he’s an absolute physical monster, and not too shabby playing out from the back.
If they’re willing to sell for £40/50 because of the contract situation, and Werner has a £30mil release clause, throw them £90/100mil total as a goodwill gesture/Fuck Bayern Munich statement.
RB Leipzig put a lot of faith in youngsters, get a good relationship with them now and start loaning our brightest prospects to them. Could pay for itself very quickly.
Could say the same about VVD, no? Just Youtube compilations, reports etc so I’m no expert, but he’s been a solid part of arguably the best defence in Germany, is young, gettable and has the physicality to work in the PL. And he is rapid.Genuinely how often have you seen Upamecano play 90 minutes? Look at the sheer size of the man, he's far too big and bulky physically to play in a high line, there's no way a man of that size he has the agility or acceleration over short distances we need in that position. If he somehow miraculously does, he's as good as guaranteed knee injuries (e.g. Micah, Kompany) long term.
Van Dijk is also a big unit.... Upamecano ...is far too big and bulky physically to play in a high line, there's no way a man of that size he has the agility or acceleration over short distances we need in that position. If he somehow miraculously does, he's as good as guaranteed knee injuries (e.g. Micah, Kompany) long term.
Van Dijk only has to concentrate on runs in behind because he's got three defensively minded midfielders in front of him, he's not constantly twisting and turning. Our defenders are far more athletically exposed purely down to our high risk/high reward style of play. VVD is also pretty slender in comparison to Upamecano, who is more Wes Morgan than John Stones size wise.Could say the same about VVD, no? Just Youtube compilations, reports etc so I’m no expert, but he’s been a solid part of arguably the best defence in Germany, is young, gettable and has the physicality to work in the PL. And he is rapid.
Van Dijk is 14kg heavier than Upamecano (Google, don’t sue me if wrong).Van Dijk only has to concentrate on runs in behind because he's got three defensively minded midfielders in front of him, he's not constantly twisting and turning. Our defenders are far more athletically exposed purely down to our high risk/high reward style of play. VVD is also pretty slender in comparison to Upamecano, who is more Wes Morgan than John Stones size wise.
60m is a lot to pay for a player just to give our present RB a kick up the arse.While Cancel was expensive, it's hard not to see he has an effect on Walker's play.
I think he'll be a net positive, so long as he doesn't get pissed and want out early. We will need him at some point. And I believe he'll shine with a string of games
Upamecano is much faster than any of our current CB's thoughVan Dijk only has to concentrate on runs in behind because he's got three defensively minded midfielders in front of him, he's not constantly twisting and turning. Our defenders are far more athletically exposed purely down to our high risk/high reward style of play. VVD is also pretty slender in comparison to Upamecano, who is more Wes Morgan than John Stones size wise.
Different sources show different information, it's impossible to know definitively. Whoscored for example shows the difference between thm as 3kg, however VVD is also 3" inches taller. For me it's the body shape, Upamecano in comparison to VVD looks like Adama Traore and Peter Crouch (that's an exaggerated piss take before anyone reacts).Van Dijk is 14kg heavier than Upamecano (Google, don’t sue me if wrong).
Agreed, which is why we need serious recovery pace. It seems this kid has it. Pep said a CB in his team is one of the hardest roles in the world, and I can see why. But he looks like he has the rare mix of pace, power and technical ability.
Wow 25 only...seems like he been around forever. Still think we won't sign anyone in Jan unless Laporte has an injury setback
Yep60m is a lot to pay for a player just to give our present RB a kick up the arse.
At this moment in time Cancelo has been a terrible signing.
Talking to a Celtic fan last night. Says Frimpong is doing really well.Zinchenko should either leave or be a rotation in midfield. I'm amazed we dont try him in the dm position. Seems to have all the qualities needed apart from height but hes a scrapper. We cant afford to have gundogan and zinchenko playing out of position. Either 1 should be dedicated position or move on. Cancelo was a crazy buy for us because frimpong who moved to celtic could easily of backed up Walker.
Why do people keep repeating this Cancelo propaganda? We didn't spend 60m on him. It a swap deal. The only reason there is a 60m figure attached to the deal is because Juve needed to recognize it all up front for accounting purposes and the media's run with it to make us look bad or whatever. It cost us ~30m out of pocket.60m is a lot to pay for a player just to give our present RB a kick up the arse.
At this moment in time Cancelo has been a terrible signing.
Fair point60m is a lot to pay for a player just to give our present RB a kick up the arse.
At this moment in time Cancelo has been a terrible signing.
It was a deal that is the best part of 60m, so your saying Danilo was worthless?Why do people keep repeating this Cancelo propaganda? We didn't spend 60m on him. It a swap deal. The only reason there is a 60m figure attached to the deal is because Juve needed to recognize it all up front for accounting purposes and the media's run with it to make us look bad or whatever. It cost us ~30m out of pocket.
No, Danilo isn't worthless, but we got value back in return. You can't count Danilo's value without counting Cancelo so you just look at net outlay. Player 1 + 30m for Player 2 = 30m net.It was a deal that is the best part of 60m, so your saying Danilo was worthless?
Regardless as of January 2020, a terrible signing, lets hope he proves his worth very soon.
I don't agree with your type of number crunching.No, Danilo isn't worthless, but we got value back in return. You can't count Danilo's value without counting Cancelo so you just look at net outlay. Player 1 + 30m for Player 2 = 30m net.
Still not looking like a particularly great transfer at the moment, but a long way to go.