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It's odd that Block 306 is showing as sold out but the equivalent Block 304 still has 10 rows with hardly a seat sold
The numbers have fallen away in Level One and Level Two but they haven't fallen in Level Three. Some of those blocks have hardly shifted a seat in a week so that makes me wonder whether the apparent late surge is real. They've certainly fallen away online but that doesn't mean they have been sold.

If the Level 3 seats get sold this evening then I'll believe that the Level 1 and 2 sales were real.

I think the crowd will be high enough to keep the media quiet though. It will be above 45k, and possibly approaching 50k. if the changes in L1 and L2 are sales then it will be higher.
 
The numbers have fallen away in Level One and Level Two but they haven't fallen in Level Three. Some of those blocks have hardly shifted a seat in a week so that makes me wonder whether the apparent late surge is real. They've certainly fallen away online but that doesn't mean they have been sold.

If the Level 3 seats get sold this evening then I'll believe that the Level 1 and 2 sales were real.

I think the crowd will be high enough to keep the media quiet though. It will be above 45k, and possibly approaching 50k. if the changes in L1 and L2 are sales then it will be higher.

There's not a chance that the bottom tiers are sold out and the top tiers are half full. I know I'm repeating myself but these tickets are not selling at all, presumably because of the criteria. Nobody is buying blocks of 3, 4 or 5 for their families at the last minute, as they would for other games because season ticket holders can only buy one extra and that's likely to be on it's own.

I'd say your estimate is about right: high 40s. We are going to get tons of stick, I'm telling you.
 
I keep trying to warn you all. You can't use the planner. There are loads of seats left all around the ground and sales are sluggish as hell.

No one can buy them.

I’ve bought 2 extra for a friend at work and he wants another 2 but can’t get them due to 2 being the limit.
 
I keep trying to warn you all. You can't use the planner. There are loads of seats left all around the ground and sales are sluggish as hell.
You can if you watch it closely. It's obvious when there are sales as they go in 1s and 2s and there's a symmetry around the ground with like for like blocks showing the same numbers.

I too suspect it's not selling and City have just put the blocks that they want to prioritise on sale. if it was selling then L3 would be going down in tandem with L1. Someone would need to explain why L2 and L1 numbers can go down very rapidly but not at all in L3.

It's difficult to interpret as the numbers went down at the time when you expect sales to be at their peak so I am hedging my bets a little.
 
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No one can buy them.

I’ve bought 2 extra for a friend at work and he wants another 2 but can’t get them due to 2 being the limit.
That's exactly what it is. Casual fans can't buy tickets and night match/cup tie regulars already have theirs.
 
There's not a chance that the bottom tiers are sold out and the top tiers are half full. I know I'm repeating myself but these tickets are not selling at all, presumably because of the criteria. Nobody is buying blocks of 3, 4 or 5 for their families at the last minute, as they would for other games because season ticket holders can only buy one extra and that's likely to be on it's own.

I'd say your estimate is about right: high 40s. We are going to get tons of stick, I'm telling you.
I don't think we will get loads of stick. There's a big difference after all from 39k and 48-50k. Man Utd had 5k empty seats and that was with City in their end.

I guess it depends on the real numbers whatever they turn out to be.
 
Is the 2 tickets criterion something we've imposed on ourselves or was it agreed with GMP?

If the former it seems odd we haven't relaxed it by now given sluggish sales and Pep's comments about wanting a big crowd.
Too late now. Should have relaxed it really because Utd fans weren't going to infiltrate the City ends when they are going to in all probability have a miserable night.

I am not too bothered if we get 48k ish and we know why it didn't sell i.e. tight sales criteria. What's more important is that we win the game and keep progressing as a football club then all these things take care of themselves.
 
You can if you watch it closely. It's obvious when there are sales as they go in 1s and 2s and there's a symmetry around the ground with like for like blocks showing the same numbers.

I too suspect it's not selling and City have just put the blocks that they want to prioritise on sale. if it was selling then L3 would be going down in tandem with L1. Someone would need to explain why L2 and L1 numbers can go down very rapidly but not at all in L3.

It's difficult to interpret as the numbers went down at the time when you expect sales to be at their peak.

All I've been doing is looking at my own block. It's barely moved in weeks. That gives you the best indication for the reasons you've given. One thing I do know is that when the ground is getting close to selling out there are, say 1000 single seats which sell last, because obviously people don't want one seat on it's own. These haven't even appeared yet. Some of those lower tier blocks were only half sold yesterday and there's no reason I can think of why they would have done overnight.
 
I don't think we will get loads of stick. There's a big difference after all from 39k and 48-50k. Man Utd had 5k empty seats and that was with City in their end.

I guess it depends on the real numbers whatever they turn out to be.

I don't know about that. If there's some bellend like Steve McManamon on commentary getting all indignant going "look at all theesh empty sheatsh!!!" and stuff, and the game is dull or predictable, it might well become "the" story. Especially after Pep's comments.
 
All I've been doing is looking at my own block. It's barely moved in weeks. That gives you the best indication for the reasons you've given. One thing I do know is that when the ground is getting close to selling out there are, say 1000 single seats which sell last, because obviously people don't want one seat on it's own. These haven't even appeared yet. Some of those lower tier blocks were only half sold yesterday and there's no reason I can think of why they would have done overnight.
Agreed. I wanted to believe it would sell but I agree the evidence suggests manipulation and prioritisation of what's left rather than a late rush or a combination. I've been watching your block. I notice it's numbers haven't changed at all. I don't see how that can happen at the same time as L1 and L3 rapidly sell out unless its personal callers to the Ticket Office. That must still go on to a small extent.

As long as we win and get a decent crowd I can live with it knowing we're trending upwards and they are trending downwards. We've known for years that City find it difficult to sell out midweek Cup games, and there are additional explanations/excuses for this game.
 
The numbers are going down in L3. If they go down substantially this evening then that will be a good indication it was genuine sales rather than City black ops job.

It's just weird how they are not going down in Didsbury Dave's block 328, or perhaps not;

I'll count them when I get back in later this evening if someone else hasn't already done it. Should be an easy job now seeing as there's only a few blocks left online.
 
Assuming they are sales. They maybe.

On the morning of the Port Vale game there were only hundred or so single seats on the plan but the attendance was 52k not 54k. There's also the Directors box, Tunnel club, and all the hospitality sections.

I think we'll do well now to get to 50k. That will do for me seeing as Utd had 5,000 empty seats in their end plus City fans, and then the tie was very much alive.

My take is that they're still selling. Not sure what block DD is in but block 304 has the most available seats in and one of the slowest selling. A couple of hours ago there were 279 left in there and now there's 254. As I said earlier, I wouldn't have thought they'd remove 20 or so tickets off sale in a block that has nearly 280 left. It's entirely possible they've taken blocks with just single seats dotted about off the planner (as they've done that before) to concentrate on shifting the blocks with the most availability.

Prediction: If they don't suspend sales tonight or in the morning, and they keep selling them up to early evening tomorrow then it'll near as dammit sell out
 
The numbers are going down in L3. If they go down substantially this evening then that will be a good indication it was genuine sales rather than City black ops job.

It's just weird how they are not going down in Didsbury Dave's block 328, or perhaps not;

I'll count them when I get back in later this evening if someone else hasn't already done it. Should be an easy job now seeing as there's only a few blocks left online.

Block 328 currently has 242 tickets available for sale. Going to have to pass duties over to you mate so let's see how many are left in there when you get back later ;)
 
Not sure what all the fuss is about. We're at home in a derby with a chance to beat them to get to Wembley! These games don't come around too often and it will be fckin brilliant if we do it. Fck the attendance. I'll be there and hopefully celebrating as much as those who can't make it. C'mon City!

True. If we turn them over and get the job done, it'll be bouncing tomorrow
 
it’s going to be a good crowd even if it’s not a sell out.

I remember the women’s Derby when some posters on here were adamant that there wouldn’t be more than 15k in the ground and there was more than twice that many at the match.
 

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